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I think it affects some groups more than others. A lot of people get mistreated at Google (TVCs, women, people of color, trans people). It’s a lot of high achie

I think it affects some groups more than others. A lot of people get mistreated at Google (TVCs, women, people of color, trans people). It’s a lot of high achieving people and a high pressure environment. Inevitably some people will push others without realizing how hard they are pushing. It’s good in my opinion for people to speak out about this.

googthrow2019 7y ago
> A lot of people get mistreated at Google (TVCs, women, people of color, trans people) It's true that TVCs are not employees, but this different in status does not amount to mistreatment. The groups you mention are not mistreated at Google. In fact, the company bends over backward to recruit and accommodate them. I challenge you to name one policy that disadvantages women, people of color, or trans people. These persistent claims of mistreatment are in fact cynical attempts to achieve unearned status and special protection from normal rules that govern the company.
- TaylorAlexander 7y ago
  I think it would be good for you to speak with TVCs from disadvantaged groups and ask them if they have been subject to mistreatment. I did when I worked there, and a lot of people are subtly and not so subtly mistreated by other employees. A female TVC I know was subject to unwanted sexual comments, and when she complained she was subject to retaliation by her FTE manager. TVC is just a different employment agreement yet many TVCs are treated as lesser than FTEs.
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UncleMeat 7y ago
It is absolutely good to speak out. There *are" people at Google who are suffering due to their identity. No question. But these questions have become wrapped up in other activist topics related to government contracts, ai, and more. I 100% support anybody who has been a victim at work due to their identity and support programs to help these people. But that isn't a civil war.
- TaylorAlexander 7y ago
  It’s not a literal civil war. But as a TVC for two years, I felt like the treatment of TVCs was an important issue that was not fully appreciated by management. It felt kind of like a class war inside the company.

googthrow2019 7y ago

> A lot of people get mistreated at Google (TVCs, women, people of color, trans people) It's true that TVCs are not employees, but this different in status does not amount to mistreatment. The groups you mention are not mistreated at Google. In fact, the company bends over backward to recruit and accommodate them. I challenge you to name one policy that disadvantages women, people of color, or trans people. These persistent claims of mistreatment are in fact cynical attempts to achieve unearned status and special protection from normal rules that govern the company.

TaylorAlexander 7y ago
I think it would be good for you to speak with TVCs from disadvantaged groups and ask them if they have been subject to mistreatment. I did when I worked there, and a lot of people are subtly and not so subtly mistreated by other employees. A female TVC I know was subject to unwanted sexual comments, and when she complained she was subject to retaliation by her FTE manager. TVC is just a different employment agreement yet many TVCs are treated as lesser than FTEs.

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UncleMeat 7y ago

It is absolutely good to speak out. There *are" people at Google who are suffering due to their identity. No question. But these questions have become wrapped up in other activist topics related to government contracts, ai, and more. I 100% support anybody who has been a victim at work due to their identity and support programs to help these people. But that isn't a civil war.

TaylorAlexander 7y ago
It’s not a literal civil war. But as a TVC for two years, I felt like the treatment of TVCs was an important issue that was not fully appreciated by management. It felt kind of like a class war inside the company.