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I've long stayed away from Lisps, precisely because of what the author describes in the first section, that there is a huge amount of praise over all of it's wo

I've long stayed away from Lisps, precisely because of what the author describes in the first section, that there is a huge amount of praise over all of it's wonders, without ever specifying what those wonders are or how they are actually good things. I've had similar issues with the cargo-cult following of Rust; yes I have heard it is great, but WHY!? Great article, it de-mystifies these vague praises and addresses them clearly and specifically. I'm gonna try Racket this afternoon =D

craftinator 7y ago
Ah, seems the Rust cargo cult is taking revenge on my disparagement by downvoting me; feel free to reply and explain why you think my comment is not constructive to the conversation, rather than just drive-by down voting. Thanks! Edit: changed "Racket" to "Rust"
- dang 7y ago
  Your post was probably downvoted for being a generic programming language flamewar comment, which is something we don't want here. Would you mind reviewing the site guidelines, which ask you not to go on about downvotes like this? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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  - craftinator 7y ago
    Ah I misread you the first time around. My original comment had no flamewar material in it, and it received a bunch of drive-by downvotes (and upvotes), with no attempts to add to the conversation. This behaviour is hardly conducive to well thought out conversation. I took an educated guess and assumed some Rustaceans skimmed my comment and took offense because they didn't thoroughly read it, as that was the only thing that I could even imagine causing downvotes, so I attempted to start a conversation. I'm well aware of the guidelines, I chose to ignore them in this instance because, as stated above, drive-by downvoting is not how one adds to the discussion. Now there are at least people discussing, which is the only reason for HN as a platform to exist. You're welcome HN!
Gene_Parmesan 7y ago
I'm no 'rustacean,' but rust's benefits have always seemed fairly straightforward. The borrow checker provides static guarantees for thread- and memory-safety, and allows for safe, performant low-level systems code without the need for a GC.
- craftinator 7y ago
  Now that is some good straightforward information! Much more clear than most other comments I've read, and a better aggregate of features than Rust documentation offers. Thanks for chiming in!

craftinator 7y ago

Ah, seems the Rust cargo cult is taking revenge on my disparagement by downvoting me; feel free to reply and explain why you think my comment is not constructive to the conversation, rather than just drive-by down voting. Thanks! Edit: changed "Racket" to "Rust"

dang 7y ago
Your post was probably downvoted for being a generic programming language flamewar comment, which is something we don't want here. Would you mind reviewing the site guidelines, which ask you not to go on about downvotes like this? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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- craftinator 7y ago
  Ah I misread you the first time around. My original comment had no flamewar material in it, and it received a bunch of drive-by downvotes (and upvotes), with no attempts to add to the conversation. This behaviour is hardly conducive to well thought out conversation. I took an educated guess and assumed some Rustaceans skimmed my comment and took offense because they didn't thoroughly read it, as that was the only thing that I could even imagine causing downvotes, so I attempted to start a conversation. I'm well aware of the guidelines, I chose to ignore them in this instance because, as stated above, drive-by downvoting is not how one adds to the discussion. Now there are at least people discussing, which is the only reason for HN as a platform to exist. You're welcome HN!

Gene_Parmesan 7y ago

I'm no 'rustacean,' but rust's benefits have always seemed fairly straightforward. The borrow checker provides static guarantees for thread- and memory-safety, and allows for safe, performant low-level systems code without the need for a GC.

craftinator 7y ago
Now that is some good straightforward information! Much more clear than most other comments I've read, and a better aggregate of features than Rust documentation offers. Thanks for chiming in!