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Or maybe the problem is the re-certification requirement needs to be adjusted if it is causing safety issues.

by skookumchuck 7y ago

pyrale 7y ago
Likewise, VW cheating their emission tests mean that we should remove emission tests, as companies are forced to disloyalty by this regulation. Enron and the 2008 crisis also put in question the need for banking regulation.
- WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
  Make stealing from working class people a crime punishable by death... starting with the C-Level suite. There's no need for further regulation.
  - arcticbull 7y ago
    There's this niche philosophy that punishment should fit the crime.
    - ceejayoz 7y ago
      In the 737 MAX case, the crime is that several hundred people died from these poor decisions.
      - skookumchuck 7y ago
        The trouble with making this a crime is then you strongly incentivize people to deny, delay, obfuscate, etc., when what you really want is full cooperation. The full cooperation "no fault" approach has led to aviation being incredibly safe. "Anything you say can and will be used against you" means you will never get to the truth of what caused an accident, and it will be much less likely to ever get fixed. Furthermore, if you criminalize mistakes, you'll have a hard time getting top quality people to work in the industry.
        chopin 7y ago
        It's hard to believe that any action by Boeing has furthered the investigation in this case. Generally, I agree with you.
        skookumchuck 7y ago
        > It's hard to believe that any action by Boeing has furthered the investigation in this case. If that's indeed the case, it is likely motivated by fear. Any admission of error leaves Boeing open to massive lawsuits and the regular calls for criminal prosecution. This entire issue has played out in the media with daily newspaper articles for months. It's quite unlike any other airliner accident investigation I recall.

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Or maybe the problem is the re-certification requirement needs to be adjusted if it is causing safety issues.

by skookumchuck 7y ago

Or maybe the problem is the re-certification requirement needs to be adjusted if it is causing safety issues.

pyrale 7y ago
Likewise, VW cheating their emission tests mean that we should remove emission tests, as companies are forced to disloyalty by this regulation. Enron and the 2008 crisis also put in question the need for banking regulation.
- WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
  Make stealing from working class people a crime punishable by death... starting with the C-Level suite. There's no need for further regulation.
  - arcticbull 7y ago
    There's this niche philosophy that punishment should fit the crime.
    - ceejayoz 7y ago
      In the 737 MAX case, the crime is that several hundred people died from these poor decisions.
      - skookumchuck 7y ago
        The trouble with making this a crime is then you strongly incentivize people to deny, delay, obfuscate, etc., when what you really want is full cooperation. The full cooperation "no fault" approach has led to aviation being incredibly safe. "Anything you say can and will be used against you" means you will never get to the truth of what caused an accident, and it will be much less likely to ever get fixed. Furthermore, if you criminalize mistakes, you'll have a hard time getting top quality people to work in the industry.
        chopin 7y ago
        It's hard to believe that any action by Boeing has furthered the investigation in this case. Generally, I agree with you.
        skookumchuck 7y ago
        > It's hard to believe that any action by Boeing has furthered the investigation in this case. If that's indeed the case, it is likely motivated by fear. Any admission of error leaves Boeing open to massive lawsuits and the regular calls for criminal prosecution. This entire issue has played out in the media with daily newspaper articles for months. It's quite unlike any other airliner accident investigation I recall.