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Maybe we just need to come up with a better solution. Might be enough to not use the machines when the birds sleep, or to add a light or buzzer so the birds can
by dandellion 7y ago
Maybe we just need to come up with a better solution. Might be enough to not use the machines when the birds sleep, or to add a light or buzzer so the birds can get away or something. A hefty fine for killing birds would probably help to get creative solutions faster.
- m0nty 7y ago> add a light or buzzer I doubt these machines are silent already.
- mayniac 7y agoThe article mentions this. They're loud and have bright lights. The problem is these disorient the birds, and they struggle to escape in time. Not really surprising, if someone woke me up at 3am with an industrial hoover and a foglight I would probably panic too.
- pvaldes 7y agoThey are loud, approach slow, have bright lights, there are loud people talking and working around... and the birds keep sleeping and do not try to escape or avoid the area? Seems unlikely I can't eval the problem with this data and never had heard of it before. Nor had seen any remains of birds in almazaras but my experience in this case is limited. Maybe is a true problem locally and is good to care for it... something does not fit in this narrative. Maybe the migrating birds are just too tired to escape?. I would look for some hidden interests. The history is very strange. In any case just put a red light in the extreme of the vacuum tube, and you'll have a cheap and pretty simple solution. Birds will avoid the tube if they can see it coming closer.
- sdfjkl 7y agoThe lights and "buzzers" seem to be part of the problem, rather than a solution, according to the article: > The loud noise and dazzling illumination of the lights is thought to disorientate the birds, who are unable to escape and end up being sucked into the machines in large numbers.
- EugeneOZ 7y agoIf loud noises will start _before_ machines turn on vacuum, at least few minutes, then, maybe, it could help.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 7y agoThat was my first thought too when I read this article - why throw the baby out with the bath water by banning the machines which are seemingly pretty efficient at what they do? Some naïve thoughts here on more clever approaches that you haven’t mentioned are some sort of noise machines that deter the birds from roosting in the fields. At risk of driving the birds away, could provide a dedicated roosting place for them instead and use some sort of incentive (maybe sound again?) to get them to roost there instead of the olive fields. There’s a lot of innovation to be had here and as you said a financial incentive would be more than enough to get the farmers to cook up these kind of schemes.
- fifnir 7y ago> Maybe we just need to come up with a better solution. A solution to what? There's not problem besides "how do i make more money out of this"