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>> Hispanics are the largest ethnic group in California [1], so it is not surprising that they would push for laws in their own ethnic self-interest. Once immig

by NTDF9 7y ago

>> Hispanics are the largest ethnic group in California [1], so it is not surprising that they would push for laws in their own ethnic self-interest. Once immigration has progressed sufficiently, it can no longer be stopped. Am I the only one who sees this as racist? Are there no hispanic Americans? Can hispanic Americans not be a majority? Are hispanic Americans not supposed to care for their near and dear when law enforcement has gone bonkers? What makes non-hispanic ethnicities so special that they can comment on hispanics as a whole? What makes you so special to think ethnic self interested is all there can be?

deogeo 7y ago
> Am I the only one who sees this as racist? Feel free to point out if there's something factually incorrect in my statement. Bear in mind 59% of hispanic Americans view their ethnicity as extremely to very important to their identity (compared to 15% of whites) [1], so it's not unfounded to say their votes would be influenced by ethnic self-interest. [1] https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019/04/09/race-in-america-2019/ https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019/04/09/race-in-america-2...
- Fjolsvith 7y ago
  Seems far more complicated than that: "There’s one obvious reason that the Hispanic and Latino vote splits up and isn’t monolithic: Hispanic and Latino voters aren’t one identity homogeneous group. As with every other large racial and ethnic category (white, black, Asian), there’s a lot of internal diversity when you look under the hood. Hispanic and Latino Americans, like Asian Americans, don’t all come from one place. Most originally come from Mexico, but a solid number come from Puerto Rico, Cuba and elsewhere in Central and South America. And voting patterns vary across these groups. Cubans, for example, are a key voting group in Florida, and they tend to be more Republican than other Latino populations. There are real generational divides: Self-identified Hispanics who are third-generation or higher are more likely than others to self-describe primarily as American rather than Hispanic/Latino, less likely to say they have felt discriminated against because of their background and feel less connected to their country of origin. Hispanics live in a wide variety of areas, and there’s some evidence that rural Hispanics moved a bit toward Trump in 2016. Evangelical Protestant Hispanics are more Republican than mainline Protestant, Catholic or religiously unaffiliated Hispanics. There’s a gender gap in Hispanic voting, too. Democrats won both Hispanic men and women in 2018, but Hispanic men were more likely to vote for Republicans than women were." [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/03/05/trumps-support-among-hispanics-latinos-is-real-dont-assume-it-will-fade/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.705f49cce3cd https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/03/05/trumps-su...

by NTDF9 7y ago

deogeo 7y ago

> Am I the only one who sees this as racist? Feel free to point out if there's something factually incorrect in my statement. Bear in mind 59% of hispanic Americans view their ethnicity as extremely to very important to their identity (compared to 15% of whites) [1], so it's not unfounded to say their votes would be influenced by ethnic self-interest. [1] https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019/04/09/race-in-america-2019/ https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019/04/09/race-in-america-2...

Fjolsvith 7y ago
Seems far more complicated than that: "There’s one obvious reason that the Hispanic and Latino vote splits up and isn’t monolithic: Hispanic and Latino voters aren’t one identity homogeneous group. As with every other large racial and ethnic category (white, black, Asian), there’s a lot of internal diversity when you look under the hood. Hispanic and Latino Americans, like Asian Americans, don’t all come from one place. Most originally come from Mexico, but a solid number come from Puerto Rico, Cuba and elsewhere in Central and South America. And voting patterns vary across these groups. Cubans, for example, are a key voting group in Florida, and they tend to be more Republican than other Latino populations. There are real generational divides: Self-identified Hispanics who are third-generation or higher are more likely than others to self-describe primarily as American rather than Hispanic/Latino, less likely to say they have felt discriminated against because of their background and feel less connected to their country of origin. Hispanics live in a wide variety of areas, and there’s some evidence that rural Hispanics moved a bit toward Trump in 2016. Evangelical Protestant Hispanics are more Republican than mainline Protestant, Catholic or religiously unaffiliated Hispanics. There’s a gender gap in Hispanic voting, too. Democrats won both Hispanic men and women in 2018, but Hispanic men were more likely to vote for Republicans than women were." [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/03/05/trumps-support-among-hispanics-latinos-is-real-dont-assume-it-will-fade/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.705f49cce3cd https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/03/05/trumps-su...