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This assume there is such a thing as chaos, and not just a state with so many variables it seems chaotic to our limited eyes. I'm open to it, but let's not pret

• chr1 7y ago
  The chaos is not related to the number of variables, it is sensitivity to initial conditions. Even system with one variable, and the simplest evaluation rule can be chaotic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_map https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_map. The only requirement is that after some time all the points in the phase space are mixed so heavily that to find one you need to do exactly the same calculations the system itself had to do. And btw this gives a plausible explanation of free will, it is not that the future behavior of the system is not completely predictable from the past, but the fact that to predict it you need to simulate the system faithfully, which is equivalent to that system living and making its own choice.
  • sametmax 7y ago
    If you want to make the case that complexity => free will, you need to demonstrate it, not just say it is.
    • chr1 7y ago
      My hypothesis is: computational irreducibility => free will. Unfortunately i don't see any way to prove it other than creating a simulation that contains a real human that can pass turing test. But perhaps arguments in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19944362 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19944362 can convince you that the hypothesis is not a total bs)