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Let put some facts right * Harmony is already a fork of java. But without the patent grant there is an unknown. * ASF wanted to pass the TCK for the patent gr
by dreur 16y ago
Let put some facts right
* Harmony is already a fork of java. But without the patent grant there is an unknown.
* ASF wanted to pass the TCK for the patent grant and wanted Oracle to get rid of the field of use related to the tck.
* Dalvik is using some of Harmony's code.
- windsurfer 16y agoOracle promised that "any" project could get the patent grant as long as you comply with the TCK, but you can only run the TCK if you agree to a restrictive license? Sounds pretty fishy to me.
- oconnor0 16y agoWasn't Dalvik found not to be using any of Harmony's code?
- shareme 16y agoDalvik uses no Apache Harmony code, the libraries you write against do
- bad_user 16y agoYou don't know what a fork is. In order for it to be a fork, something has to get forked from the parent ... like the source code, or the standard.
- ollysb 16y agoIn this case it would be a fork from the standard. Without allowing the TCK to be used against harmony the project must be considered a different standard that may will diverge in the future. Given the disappointment over closures and collection literals being delayed until java 8 there must be a temptation within the harmony camp to push ahead with these features and produce the version of java that many are clamoring for.
- sigzero 16y agoIt would be dead in the water if forked from the "standard". Java plays in the enterprise space and they are pretty particular about that sort of thing.
- ollysb 16y agoI agree, the java community is generally extremely risk averse. This does however create a positive pressure towards such a fork. It seems very hypothetical at the moment but given that a fork were to receive backing from google I'm sure the enterprise community would be comfortable using it.