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I still don't get it. What demographic are we talking about here? Who goes to a bar 2-5 times a week? Again, even as a student, where we actually would have had

by anyfoo 7y ago

I still don't get it. What demographic are we talking about here? Who goes to a bar 2-5 times a week? Again, even as a student, where we actually would have had the time (not all the time, but definitely stretches of), going out in such close succession would only happen occasionally, at best, even for the more, um, "ambitious" people I knew. Now after university, I can't even imagine going to a bar after work more than once in a few months (and even then, keep the alcohol intake at a minimum). And here you are talking about 5-8 beers on a single evening, which definitely qualifies as "getting drunk", with loss of control (not necessarily unexpectedly or with grave consequences), hangover, and everything, and then repeating that multiple times per week? Maybe US beer is less strong than German beer, but that's not really my experience here in San Francisco. At a sustained rate, I think even amongst university students in drink-happy countries that qualifies as alcoholic.

P_I_Staker 7y ago
> I still don't get it. What demographic are we talking about here? Who goes to a bar 2-5 times a week? Plenty of people. I don't understand what you're so confused by. 5x per week @ 5-8 is the high end, and I'm not talking about actual cups. They aren't ordering 5 separate beers, everything is 16-24 ounces. > And here you are talking about 5-8 beers on a single evening, which definitely qualifies as "getting drunk" There's a lot of people that wouldn't count 5 beers as "getting drunk", especially if spaced out. Buzzed sure, but not approaching drunk. > Maybe US beer is less strong than German beer, but that's not really my experience here in San Francisco. In this day and age, it's much stronger, and I'm accounting for that. > At a sustained rate, I think even amongst university students in drink-happy countries that qualifies as alcoholic. I think you'd be wrong, university was mental. People would drink that much before they even went out. I'm not the first person to point out the normalized drinking culture. Most people don't map out their drinking and fully consider the health implications. They tend to underestimate and report. There was a (UK) film about this called Drinkers like me. The guy said he didn't think he had a drinking problem, his friends would laugh at the idea, but he was clocking over 100 units per week (note that 1 unit != 1 drink). As long as you're "social", not obsessed, or fixating on it, people think nothing of it.

by anyfoo 7y ago

P_I_Staker 7y ago

> I still don't get it. What demographic are we talking about here? Who goes to a bar 2-5 times a week? Plenty of people. I don't understand what you're so confused by. 5x per week @ 5-8 is the high end, and I'm not talking about actual cups. They aren't ordering 5 separate beers, everything is 16-24 ounces. > And here you are talking about 5-8 beers on a single evening, which definitely qualifies as "getting drunk" There's a lot of people that wouldn't count 5 beers as "getting drunk", especially if spaced out. Buzzed sure, but not approaching drunk. > Maybe US beer is less strong than German beer, but that's not really my experience here in San Francisco. In this day and age, it's much stronger, and I'm accounting for that. > At a sustained rate, I think even amongst university students in drink-happy countries that qualifies as alcoholic. I think you'd be wrong, university was mental. People would drink that much before they even went out. I'm not the first person to point out the normalized drinking culture. Most people don't map out their drinking and fully consider the health implications. They tend to underestimate and report. There was a (UK) film about this called Drinkers like me. The guy said he didn't think he had a drinking problem, his friends would laugh at the idea, but he was clocking over 100 units per week (note that 1 unit != 1 drink). As long as you're "social", not obsessed, or fixating on it, people think nothing of it.