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I think the title is a little misleading, I was expecting an article demonstrating that there is little correlation between top salaries or stock payouts and ha

I think the title is a little misleading, I was expecting an article demonstrating that there is little correlation between top salaries or stock payouts and happiness; seems more just a nostalgia rant for the way SF used to be.

obpacheco 7y ago
> At the beginning of the current tech boom, it seemed that “old” San Francisco—activists, artists, immigrants—might continue to set the terms of the city, as it grudgingly acclimated to, and resisted, the influx of entrepreneurs and tech workers. It's funny that someone who embraces the immigrant culture of San Francisco, is so anti-immigration when other people also want to immigrate to San Francisco in search of higher wages and a better life.
- intopieces 7y ago
  The rich and well educated have more options, so it makes sense to be on the side of immigrants who don’t.
  - obpacheco 7y ago
    You seem to be implying that immigrants aren't rich or well educated, the evidence doesn't bare that out. Middle Eastern immigrants are on average more educated that Americans, Asian immigrants make a much higher median wage than average Americans. Source from quartz showing that foreign born citizens earn higher wages: [link](https://qz.com/781527/immigrants-are-getting-more-out-of-americas-recovery-than-native-born-households-are/ https://qz.com/781527/immigrants-are-getting-more-out-of-ame...)
Loughla 7y ago
Nostalgia is a powerful driving force. I'm convinced Nostalgia, more than fear or hope is what got Trump elected, and why he'll win again. People seem to be desperate to always want to return to 'how things were'. It's fascinating.
- obpacheco 7y ago
  Tribalism seems to pop up in all different populations. Fear of changing demographics, fear of others coming into your city/country, fear of change. Definitely a lot of parallels between the logic of this article and the logic that got Trump elected.
- njepa 7y ago
  And sometimes things were actually better. Of course it is surprising that people want to go back to something like coal. But it isn't surprising that people want to go back to a time when their communities had a purpose and a future.
- chrisdhoover 7y ago
  Yeah it had nothing to do with his opponent being a corrupt insider who ran an awful campaign.
- ehvatum 7y ago
  As the owner of a CNC machine shop in Madison, IL, I can tell you it has nothing to do with such wishy washy nostalgia. The steel mills have reopened and are running at capacity. Hard work for an honest dollar is dignity that transcends skin color. The renaissance of modern American manufacturing is beautiful. Trump will win because he promised dignity and delivered.
MagicPropmaker 7y ago
And a plea not to build and "change the city's character"
dang 7y ago
OK, we've replaced the title with the top photo caption (shortened to fit the 80 char limit). Those are an underappreciated source of more specific titles, though in this case it still doesn't really cover the whole article.

obpacheco 7y ago

> At the beginning of the current tech boom, it seemed that “old” San Francisco—activists, artists, immigrants—might continue to set the terms of the city, as it grudgingly acclimated to, and resisted, the influx of entrepreneurs and tech workers. It's funny that someone who embraces the immigrant culture of San Francisco, is so anti-immigration when other people also want to immigrate to San Francisco in search of higher wages and a better life.

intopieces 7y ago
The rich and well educated have more options, so it makes sense to be on the side of immigrants who don’t.
- obpacheco 7y ago
  You seem to be implying that immigrants aren't rich or well educated, the evidence doesn't bare that out. Middle Eastern immigrants are on average more educated that Americans, Asian immigrants make a much higher median wage than average Americans. Source from quartz showing that foreign born citizens earn higher wages: [link](https://qz.com/781527/immigrants-are-getting-more-out-of-americas-recovery-than-native-born-households-are/ https://qz.com/781527/immigrants-are-getting-more-out-of-ame...)

Loughla 7y ago

Nostalgia is a powerful driving force. I'm convinced Nostalgia, more than fear or hope is what got Trump elected, and why he'll win again. People seem to be desperate to always want to return to 'how things were'. It's fascinating.

obpacheco 7y ago
Tribalism seems to pop up in all different populations. Fear of changing demographics, fear of others coming into your city/country, fear of change. Definitely a lot of parallels between the logic of this article and the logic that got Trump elected.
njepa 7y ago
And sometimes things were actually better. Of course it is surprising that people want to go back to something like coal. But it isn't surprising that people want to go back to a time when their communities had a purpose and a future.
chrisdhoover 7y ago
Yeah it had nothing to do with his opponent being a corrupt insider who ran an awful campaign.
ehvatum 7y ago
As the owner of a CNC machine shop in Madison, IL, I can tell you it has nothing to do with such wishy washy nostalgia. The steel mills have reopened and are running at capacity. Hard work for an honest dollar is dignity that transcends skin color. The renaissance of modern American manufacturing is beautiful. Trump will win because he promised dignity and delivered.

MagicPropmaker 7y ago

And a plea not to build and "change the city's character"

dang 7y ago

OK, we've replaced the title with the top photo caption (shortened to fit the 80 char limit). Those are an underappreciated source of more specific titles, though in this case it still doesn't really cover the whole article.