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They do realize that this same action finally pulled SGI under the surface of the water to drown, right? It would be super awesome if there was a company that

They do realize that this same action finally pulled SGI under the surface of the water to drown, right? It would be super awesome if there was a company that had a workable business model where it could successfully do "very large compute system" research and development. Given the way they handled "The Machine" though, suggests to me that this is not that company.

pinewurst 8y ago
If one looks into Cray's viability as a business, you'll see a pretty much unending string of losses. Though the CEO is the best paid (or pretty darned close) in Seattle, at least on a cash basis. As HPE is close to the #1 HPC vendor anyway, all they're going to get is entree to some of the more esoteric government contracts - which they'll probably wreck by trying to cram their awful consulting services into.
noobermin 8y ago
Perhaps they don't care. They want to cash out and abandon ship like all good managers/CEOs/founders do.
jngreenlee 8y ago
>Given the way they handled "The Machine" though Tell me more...I'm an HPE fan, and live near Ft Collins, get to tour the lab sometimes. I see progress being made but maybe its not in a very public way. Biggest thing I could add is that the 'Machine' is not a reference architecture or target...its a pipeline of research that (by visual accounts) is continuing...
- billyhoffman 8y ago
  Well, here is how they announced “The Machine” back in 2014: This changes everything,” said HP CEO Meg Whitman in introducing the Machine in her HP Discover 2014 keynote in Las Vegas. “We’ve been talking about many of the component technologies for some time,” she noted. “Now we’re bringing them together in a single project to make a revolutionary compute architecture available by the end of the decade.” Since then, not a lot. HP Labs has done a lot of sexy things, but HPE as a business is big on hype, bad on delivery. Hopefully Cray won’t be the same
  - reilly3000 8y ago
    HP was big on hype. HPE spun off in 2017 and is big on contracts.
    - NotSammyHagar 8y ago
      plus its not quite the end of the decade. maybe a miracle will occur ;-)
- TheCondor 8y ago
  That was not at all clear from their public messaging. the Machine may very well be a concept but it was messages like a revolutionary product
- cmiles74 7y ago
  I disagree. They announced it as a revelutionary computing system that would change they way all computers would be built. They then chipped away at features until there was litle interesting left... I followed these stories with real interest and was left disappointed. 2014: https://www.engadget.com/2014/06/11/hp-the-machine/ https://www.engadget.com/2014/06/11/hp-the-machine/ 2016: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/11/hpe-machine-prototype/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/11/hpe-machine-prototyp... Last Year: https://www.nextplatform.com/2018/06/21/hpe-boots-up-sandbox-of-the-machine-for-early-users/ https://www.nextplatform.com/2018/06/21/hpe-boots-up-sandbox...

pinewurst 8y ago

If one looks into Cray's viability as a business, you'll see a pretty much unending string of losses. Though the CEO is the best paid (or pretty darned close) in Seattle, at least on a cash basis. As HPE is close to the #1 HPC vendor anyway, all they're going to get is entree to some of the more esoteric government contracts - which they'll probably wreck by trying to cram their awful consulting services into.

noobermin 8y ago

Perhaps they don't care. They want to cash out and abandon ship like all good managers/CEOs/founders do.

jngreenlee 8y ago

>Given the way they handled "The Machine" though Tell me more...I'm an HPE fan, and live near Ft Collins, get to tour the lab sometimes. I see progress being made but maybe its not in a very public way. Biggest thing I could add is that the 'Machine' is not a reference architecture or target...its a pipeline of research that (by visual accounts) is continuing...

billyhoffman 8y ago
Well, here is how they announced “The Machine” back in 2014: This changes everything,” said HP CEO Meg Whitman in introducing the Machine in her HP Discover 2014 keynote in Las Vegas. “We’ve been talking about many of the component technologies for some time,” she noted. “Now we’re bringing them together in a single project to make a revolutionary compute architecture available by the end of the decade.” Since then, not a lot. HP Labs has done a lot of sexy things, but HPE as a business is big on hype, bad on delivery. Hopefully Cray won’t be the same
- reilly3000 8y ago
  HP was big on hype. HPE spun off in 2017 and is big on contracts.
  - NotSammyHagar 8y ago
    plus its not quite the end of the decade. maybe a miracle will occur ;-)
TheCondor 8y ago
That was not at all clear from their public messaging. the Machine may very well be a concept but it was messages like a revolutionary product
cmiles74 7y ago
I disagree. They announced it as a revelutionary computing system that would change they way all computers would be built. They then chipped away at features until there was litle interesting left... I followed these stories with real interest and was left disappointed. 2014: https://www.engadget.com/2014/06/11/hp-the-machine/ https://www.engadget.com/2014/06/11/hp-the-machine/ 2016: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/11/hpe-machine-prototype/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/11/hpe-machine-prototyp... Last Year: https://www.nextplatform.com/2018/06/21/hpe-boots-up-sandbox-of-the-machine-for-early-users/ https://www.nextplatform.com/2018/06/21/hpe-boots-up-sandbox...