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I read somewhere that the lifespan of the average hyperlink is only about two years. I count myself lucky I was introduced to the HTTRACK archiver program many

I read somewhere that the lifespan of the average hyperlink is only about two years. I count myself lucky I was introduced to the HTTRACK archiver program many years ago and thus have complete offline copies of many of my favorite websites of the early 00's.

cbluth 7y ago
you should upload them somewhere for posterity
Crinus 7y ago
Similarly, also even today i use wget --clone and the Firefox addon Save Page WE to save interesting pages (the latter works for single pages, but it is useful for blog articles, etc).
adossi 7y ago
Can you give some examples of these 'favorite websites'? I'm interested in knowing what kind of website would be so interesting that I would want an entire offline copy of it. (Besides maybe Wikipedia)
- uwuhn 7y ago
  The Rotten Library is the first thing that comes to mind.
- Causality1 7y ago
  Mostly defunct webcomics but also some of the small personal sites that documented and collected resources for particular events or strange people. A lot of those arose out of the SomethingAwful forums. For example, there was a guy named Brian who wrote batshit insane fanfiction about himself. One of these sites archived the fiction, interviews with Brian, videos, recordings of collaborative reading skype parties, etc, all neatly on one site and now safely tucked away on my drives. Now I have a little piece of nostalgia from 2004 I can step back into.
  - rchaud 7y ago
    Are you able to navigate through the sites using the original links? I notice that on the Wayback Machine, internal site links only work if that particular page was also archived.
    - Causality1 7y ago
      Yes. It also lets you designate a particular number of "steps" outside the original site it will also archive. So I give it a site and a 1-step limit, I'll get the site and also any individual other webpage linked to somewhere on the original site. It doesn't do so well with modern sites that full of CDN-hosted content and pages that depend on data from two dozen different domains to function properly but it's great for old pre-web2.0 stuff.
rchaud 7y ago
I run a music review website in my free time and I'm extremely envious that you were able to archive that stuff. The indie music sites of the early '00s (pre-social media) were a goldmine of non-corporate DIY journalism and analysis that simply doesn't exist anymore.
dredmorbius 7y ago
According to the Internet Archive, it's closer to 100 days. https://blogs.loc.gov/thesignal/2011/11/the-average-lifespan-of-a-webpage/ https://blogs.loc.gov/thesignal/2011/11/the-average-lifespan... https://blog.archive.org/2013/10/25/fixing-broken-links/ https://blog.archive.org/2013/10/25/fixing-broken-links/

cbluth 7y ago

you should upload them somewhere for posterity

Crinus 7y ago

Similarly, also even today i use wget --clone and the Firefox addon Save Page WE to save interesting pages (the latter works for single pages, but it is useful for blog articles, etc).

adossi 7y ago

Can you give some examples of these 'favorite websites'? I'm interested in knowing what kind of website would be so interesting that I would want an entire offline copy of it. (Besides maybe Wikipedia)

uwuhn 7y ago
The Rotten Library is the first thing that comes to mind.
Causality1 7y ago
Mostly defunct webcomics but also some of the small personal sites that documented and collected resources for particular events or strange people. A lot of those arose out of the SomethingAwful forums. For example, there was a guy named Brian who wrote batshit insane fanfiction about himself. One of these sites archived the fiction, interviews with Brian, videos, recordings of collaborative reading skype parties, etc, all neatly on one site and now safely tucked away on my drives. Now I have a little piece of nostalgia from 2004 I can step back into.
- rchaud 7y ago
  Are you able to navigate through the sites using the original links? I notice that on the Wayback Machine, internal site links only work if that particular page was also archived.
  - Causality1 7y ago
    Yes. It also lets you designate a particular number of "steps" outside the original site it will also archive. So I give it a site and a 1-step limit, I'll get the site and also any individual other webpage linked to somewhere on the original site. It doesn't do so well with modern sites that full of CDN-hosted content and pages that depend on data from two dozen different domains to function properly but it's great for old pre-web2.0 stuff.

rchaud 7y ago

I run a music review website in my free time and I'm extremely envious that you were able to archive that stuff. The indie music sites of the early '00s (pre-social media) were a goldmine of non-corporate DIY journalism and analysis that simply doesn't exist anymore.

dredmorbius 7y ago

According to the Internet Archive, it's closer to 100 days. https://blogs.loc.gov/thesignal/2011/11/the-average-lifespan-of-a-webpage/ https://blogs.loc.gov/thesignal/2011/11/the-average-lifespan... https://blog.archive.org/2013/10/25/fixing-broken-links/ https://blog.archive.org/2013/10/25/fixing-broken-links/