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Please edit your comment to clarify what Microsoft lost its dominance in.

by jimbob45 7y ago

Fnoord 7y ago
Should be obvious. Browser penetration (MSIE was once the most popular web browser), and therefore they couldn't monetize the smartphone market via their desktop dominance.
acdha 7y ago
Do you think a greater or lesser percentage of people use a Microsoft operating system over the time period mentioned? What about web browsers?
- jimbob45 7y ago
  They certainly still have vice grips on the word processing, OS, and IDE industries. They lost their grip on the browser industry. I'm not sure which one he's referring to.
  - acdha 7y ago
    You were responding to someone who referred to “Microsoft Windows”, so you will find https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste... educational. Even with the attempt to broaden it, your first sentence is only true if you add a qualifier like “in Enterprise IT environments” — Office is the area where they're still most dominant but even there has seen a big shift away from tasks which would have been done in Office in the late-90s/early-2000s but are now using web / mobile apps.
  - Fnoord 7y ago
    In the end of 90s and start of 00s Microsoft was the dominant OS on graphical clients (GUI). Before that, it was [in no particular order]: CLI (including DOS), UNIX (X11 such as SGI IRIX or SunOS), nothing (pen & paper), and some fragmentation/diversity in SOHO (such as Amiga). Fast-forward to end of 10s and the dominant client is the web browser stack where Microsoft is barely relevant. That Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office are still dominant is hardly important as the market trend is that these markets themselves are less relevant. If not merely for the fact that venfor lock-in has shifted, in favor of the other 4 in the FAANG stack.

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Please edit your comment to clarify what Microsoft lost its dominance in.

by jimbob45 7y ago

Please edit your comment to clarify what Microsoft lost its dominance in.

Fnoord 7y ago
Should be obvious. Browser penetration (MSIE was once the most popular web browser), and therefore they couldn't monetize the smartphone market via their desktop dominance.
acdha 7y ago
Do you think a greater or lesser percentage of people use a Microsoft operating system over the time period mentioned? What about web browsers?
- jimbob45 7y ago
  They certainly still have vice grips on the word processing, OS, and IDE industries. They lost their grip on the browser industry. I'm not sure which one he's referring to.
  - acdha 7y ago
    You were responding to someone who referred to “Microsoft Windows”, so you will find https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste... educational. Even with the attempt to broaden it, your first sentence is only true if you add a qualifier like “in Enterprise IT environments” — Office is the area where they're still most dominant but even there has seen a big shift away from tasks which would have been done in Office in the late-90s/early-2000s but are now using web / mobile apps.
  - Fnoord 7y ago
    In the end of 90s and start of 00s Microsoft was the dominant OS on graphical clients (GUI). Before that, it was [in no particular order]: CLI (including DOS), UNIX (X11 such as SGI IRIX or SunOS), nothing (pen & paper), and some fragmentation/diversity in SOHO (such as Amiga). Fast-forward to end of 10s and the dominant client is the web browser stack where Microsoft is barely relevant. That Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office are still dominant is hardly important as the market trend is that these markets themselves are less relevant. If not merely for the fact that venfor lock-in has shifted, in favor of the other 4 in the FAANG stack.