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How many Teslas are on the road, how many have been involved in fatal crashes, and for how many of those crashes was autopilot turned on?

close04 7y ago
How many times would the AP have crashed the car but the driver intervened? Are these instances showing up in any statistic? A student driver never crashed because the instructor is there to take over. Would you say student drivers are good drivers based on this?
- Stubbs 7y ago
  and how many times has AP avoided accidents the driver wouldn't? The stats arn't that simple any more are they. There are plenty more news articles, especially in local news, about fatalities involving non autopilot cars, but they're not as interesting so don't get shared as often.
  - close04 7y ago
    Such stats are never simple. But when important data is withheld they definitely become irrelevant. They become more of a PR tool. Statistically speaking 100% of people are able to pilot a plane with their eyes closed and not crash it... as long as a qualified pilot is ready to take over at any time. Such a stat is only valuable if you want to show the standby pilot is useful. What would you base your assumption that AP saved even 1 life on when that data is not provided? All we know is that it crashed a number of times exclusively when it wasn’t supervised as required. The pragmatic conclusion is that it works because it’s supervised. I imagine Tesla would release more data if it supported the performance of the AP.
  - mrep 7y ago
    Here is a cool video in which shows a model 3 dodging a car in front of it [0] after it got rear ended causing it to jut forward. Owner says it wasn't him but autopilot that did it. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/bl5pa9/tesla_model_3_saved_me/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/bl5pa9/tesla_m...
zaroth 7y ago
They report numbers quarterly: https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport
- Someone1234 7y ago
  Where? No report is linked from that page, just a marketing paragraph without raw data.
Fricken 7y ago
Tesla won't release comprehensive data because they don't want you to know.

close04 7y ago

How many times would the AP have crashed the car but the driver intervened? Are these instances showing up in any statistic? A student driver never crashed because the instructor is there to take over. Would you say student drivers are good drivers based on this?

Stubbs 7y ago
and how many times has AP avoided accidents the driver wouldn't? The stats arn't that simple any more are they. There are plenty more news articles, especially in local news, about fatalities involving non autopilot cars, but they're not as interesting so don't get shared as often.
- close04 7y ago
  Such stats are never simple. But when important data is withheld they definitely become irrelevant. They become more of a PR tool. Statistically speaking 100% of people are able to pilot a plane with their eyes closed and not crash it... as long as a qualified pilot is ready to take over at any time. Such a stat is only valuable if you want to show the standby pilot is useful. What would you base your assumption that AP saved even 1 life on when that data is not provided? All we know is that it crashed a number of times exclusively when it wasn’t supervised as required. The pragmatic conclusion is that it works because it’s supervised. I imagine Tesla would release more data if it supported the performance of the AP.
- mrep 7y ago
  Here is a cool video in which shows a model 3 dodging a car in front of it [0] after it got rear ended causing it to jut forward. Owner says it wasn't him but autopilot that did it. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/bl5pa9/tesla_model_3_saved_me/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/bl5pa9/tesla_m...

zaroth 7y ago

They report numbers quarterly: https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport

Someone1234 7y ago
Where? No report is linked from that page, just a marketing paragraph without raw data.

Fricken 7y ago

Tesla won't release comprehensive data because they don't want you to know.