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It's already illegal to ride scooters on the sidewalks. And anywhere else really, given that these vehicles don't fall into any category. As usual, France is r
by hocuspocus 7y ago
It's already illegal to ride scooters on the sidewalks. And anywhere else really, given that these vehicles don't fall into any category.
As usual, France is really good at introducing laws that don't bring anything new instead of simply enforcing the current ones. I've seen seven different companies providing free floating scooters in Paris, and plenty of them are used by complete idiots. There have been several deaths already. The mayor could easily ban all these startups if she really cared about the law and public safety. Riders who own their own scooter seem to be a bit more responsible, and those are the ones that should be targeted by new laws.
- smt88 7y agoIt's illegal to ride scooters on the sidewalks in my city in the US, but everyone still rides them on the sidewalks. There's no practical way to enforce the sidewalk law. We know that's true because laws regarding cars are often ignored as well.
- adev_ 7y ago> As usual, France is really good at introducing laws that don't bring anything new instead of simply enforcing the current ones. The usual French way is to have law that makes almost everything illegal but with laws that are never enforced in practice. And when you want to make something really illegal, you pass 10 laws on the same topic to be really sure one of them is enforced in practice.
- jessriedel 7y ago> I've seen seven different companies providing free floating scooters in Paris... There have been several deaths already. Cite? I couldn't find any news stories about electric scooter (not mopeds) deaths in France, and this page suggests they are exceedingly rare. https://m.ranker.com/list/worst-electric-scooter-accidents-and-deaths/sarah-blumert https://m.ranker.com/list/worst-electric-scooter-accidents-a...
- VSerge 7y agoyou will find below a 2018 article (in French), it lists a 23% rise in injuries, though fatalies appear stable year on year. Experts are cited as expecting a sharp rise of both with the increasing numbers of "trottinettes électriques". Seeing the people ride everyday (headphones on, no helmet), it seems like it's pretty much a statistical certainty. http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/les-accidents-de-trottinettes-en-forte-hausse-10-10-2018-7916037.php http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/les-accidents-de-trottinett...
- jessriedel 7y agoFatalities stable (from 6 in 2016 down to 5 in 2017) in a category that combines rollerblades and scooters. And we obviously expect injuries (and deaths) to rise with increased usage. The pertinent question is whether the injury/death rate per km (or whatever) is high compared to similar forms of transport.
- jessriedel 7y agoNote also that these deaths are for all of France. I would say this is, if anything, evidence against hocuspocus's suggestion that there have been several deaths from electric-scooter accidents in Paris.
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- ernesth 7y agoIn fact, the french law is that vehicles are tolerated on sidewalks as long as they are not faster than reasonable (which is understood to mean up to 6km/h). Electric wheelchairs for example have the right to use sidewalks. However, people do not know the law, so an explicit ban by a mayor is better than status quo.
- rjsw 7y agoPlenty of them about in Toulouse, can't tell whether they are owned by their user or not, all the ones I have seen have been the same colour.