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I’ve read many times Tesla owners saying the warnings pop up even if you have your hands on the wheel if you have a light touch. Has Tesla fixed this issue yet?

by dahdum 7y ago

zaroth 7y ago
On the Model 3 at least I believe the sensor is based on torque. You have to apply turning pressure to the wheel. Just enough so it knows you’re there, not too much to disengage AP. I find jiggling the volume wheel or the cruise speed wheel on the steering wheel up/down a click is more reliable because that won’t ever disengage AP. I have no idea what they mean “did not detect hands on the wheel” because it doesn’t detect your hands on the wheel at all. It detects steering input on the wheel.
- mehrdadn 7y ago
  > I have no idea what they mean “did not detect hands on the wheel” because it doesn’t detect your hands on the wheel at all. It detects steering input on the wheel. Wow! Really?! That sounds like one hell of a lie on Tesla's part... cynical part of me wonders if they deliberately avoided trying to detect hands for liability reasons?
  - reubenswartz 7y ago
    Hands on wheel doesn't really mean anything. You could be asleep. Applying a slight torque to the wheel or nudging one of the buttons requires conscious action, unless you deliberately hack it. (from this thread it sounds like there are some tricks that work, if you don't particularly value your life or the lives of others on the road.) That said, Tesla's PR often seems misleading at best.
  - de_watcher 7y ago
    Yea, they should give you the Valve Index controllers instead of the wheel to be absolutely sure.
JaggedJax 7y ago
This is still how it works today. The wheel must sense a certain amount of turning resistance or it will say there are not hands on the wheel even if there are. Short of installing new sensors in new steering wheels, all they can do is adjust that sensitivity level which they might not be able to do at risk of false positive detections.
mrich 7y ago
It's actually the same for ACC in my VW Touran. Steering input is needed to calm the warning. After some time it will even stop on its on without any input :)

I’ve read many times Tesla owners saying the warnings pop up even if you have your hands on the wheel if you have a light touch. Has Tesla fixed this issue yet?

by dahdum 7y ago

I’ve read many times Tesla owners saying the warnings pop up even if you have your hands on the wheel if you have a light touch. Has Tesla fixed this issue yet?

zaroth 7y ago

On the Model 3 at least I believe the sensor is based on torque. You have to apply turning pressure to the wheel. Just enough so it knows you’re there, not too much to disengage AP. I find jiggling the volume wheel or the cruise speed wheel on the steering wheel up/down a click is more reliable because that won’t ever disengage AP. I have no idea what they mean “did not detect hands on the wheel” because it doesn’t detect your hands on the wheel at all. It detects steering input on the wheel.

mehrdadn 7y ago
> I have no idea what they mean “did not detect hands on the wheel” because it doesn’t detect your hands on the wheel at all. It detects steering input on the wheel. Wow! Really?! That sounds like one hell of a lie on Tesla's part... cynical part of me wonders if they deliberately avoided trying to detect hands for liability reasons?
- reubenswartz 7y ago
  Hands on wheel doesn't really mean anything. You could be asleep. Applying a slight torque to the wheel or nudging one of the buttons requires conscious action, unless you deliberately hack it. (from this thread it sounds like there are some tricks that work, if you don't particularly value your life or the lives of others on the road.) That said, Tesla's PR often seems misleading at best.
- de_watcher 7y ago
  Yea, they should give you the Valve Index controllers instead of the wheel to be absolutely sure.

JaggedJax 7y ago

This is still how it works today. The wheel must sense a certain amount of turning resistance or it will say there are not hands on the wheel even if there are. Short of installing new sensors in new steering wheels, all they can do is adjust that sensitivity level which they might not be able to do at risk of false positive detections.

mrich 7y ago

It's actually the same for ACC in my VW Touran. Steering input is needed to calm the warning. After some time it will even stop on its on without any input :)