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A one dimensional left/right view doesn't really explain our current politics very well. Factions in both parties have strong reasons to be against freedom of

A one dimensional left/right view doesn't really explain our current politics very well. Factions in both parties have strong reasons to be against freedom of speech.

shiven 7y ago
This. So much this. FoE is attacked from both sides. Each with their own self-serving justifications.
Gibbon1 7y ago
There is a very strong tribal/identity politics thing going on with both the left and the right in the US. Scares the hell out of me.
- aj7 7y ago
  Yeah. People with brains should be more united.
  - SlowRobotAhead 7y ago
    >Yeah. People with brains should be more united. While i don’t disagree on its face. That statement usually means “people should just be on my side”. As written above; the Overton window has been moving left, and things like not prosecuting female gential mutilation in the US, straight socialism, not settling for anything less than full gun bans, open borders - things that would have got you locked up 50 years ago are being pushed by presidential candidates and congress members. It’s moved left, and a little too far. So while I agree people with brains should be united, right now many of the balanced beliefs will get you called an alt-right Nazi.
    - wolco 7y ago
      You need a third party that takes up the middle. That allows the parties to move slowly towards the middle and shift left or right over certain issues only. Right now it is setup to move the parties apart as the choice is binary.
    - dashundchen 7y ago
      > not prosecuting female gential mutilation in the US, straight socialism, not settling for anything less than full gun bans, open borders Please don't lie. There is no mainstream Congress person or presidential candidate protecting FGM, advocating for full socialism or complete open borders. Just because you disagree with them doesn't make your projections true.

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A one dimensional left/right view doesn't really explain our current politics very well. Factions in both parties have strong reasons to be against freedom of

by jdsully 7y ago

A one dimensional left/right view doesn't really explain our current politics very well. Factions in both parties have strong reasons to be against freedom of speech.

shiven 7y ago
This. So much this. FoE is attacked from both sides. Each with their own self-serving justifications.
Gibbon1 7y ago
There is a very strong tribal/identity politics thing going on with both the left and the right in the US. Scares the hell out of me.
- aj7 7y ago
  Yeah. People with brains should be more united.
  - SlowRobotAhead 7y ago
    >Yeah. People with brains should be more united. While i don’t disagree on its face. That statement usually means “people should just be on my side”. As written above; the Overton window has been moving left, and things like not prosecuting female gential mutilation in the US, straight socialism, not settling for anything less than full gun bans, open borders - things that would have got you locked up 50 years ago are being pushed by presidential candidates and congress members. It’s moved left, and a little too far. So while I agree people with brains should be united, right now many of the balanced beliefs will get you called an alt-right Nazi.
    - wolco 7y ago
      You need a third party that takes up the middle. That allows the parties to move slowly towards the middle and shift left or right over certain issues only. Right now it is setup to move the parties apart as the choice is binary.
    - dashundchen 7y ago
      > not prosecuting female gential mutilation in the US, straight socialism, not settling for anything less than full gun bans, open borders Please don't lie. There is no mainstream Congress person or presidential candidate protecting FGM, advocating for full socialism or complete open borders. Just because you disagree with them doesn't make your projections true.