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> The score would not be reported to the student, only to college officials. This seems really sketchy. I mean, I can completely understand why the College Bo

by _Nat_ 7y ago

> The score would not be reported to the student, only to college officials. This seems really sketchy. I mean, I can completely understand why the College Board would want to avoid blowback from students knowing their scores, but their convenience seems like insufficient cause to deny students access to their own information.

BonesJustice 7y ago
Might have to do with wanting to avoid people trying to game the system? Not that I expect the shroud of secrecy to actually mitigate that problem.
- droithomme 7y ago
  The purpose of this sort of secrecy is to avoid people seeing how the system is gamed against them.
  - cm2187 7y ago
    Or rather to keep the capacity to arbitrage the system to insiders.
  - xhkkffbf 7y ago
    You seem to think that the system will be used to boost kids with high adversity scores. Many colleges desperately want kids who will pay full tuition. But they also want to claim they're "need blind." Voila. The "adversity" score tells them whether the kids came from a rich neighborhood.
    - BonesJustice 7y ago
      Actually, there was an interesting link posted here a while back[1] that explored how non-profit colleges have a vested interest in making sure at least half of their students cannot afford full tuition. To keep their tax exempt status, they must act as a “charity” by extending financial aid to at least half of their students. The tax-exempt status enables them to invest their endowment without paying taxes on the gains. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18792515 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18792515
hrktb 7y ago
If this score is to replace the current college admission weighting, wouldn’t it be logical for it to have the same opacity from the student ? Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think students get to check their college admission evaluation results.
- daseiner1 7y ago
  You're aware of your SAT scores, you're aware of your transcripts; you're aware of your essays and extra-curriculars; you aren't aware (or aren't supposed to be) of the content of your recommendation letters, but you can choose who you have write them. So sure, give this the same visibility as all of the above and make it visible to the student.
  - hrktb 7y ago
    The difference is these informations are produced or sourced by you, the extra 'adversity score', and what it replaces are external to you (and in this case it's not even personal) I see the issue with info circulating outside of your oversight that has impact on your life, I am just thinking they are basically keeping the status quo on this.

by _Nat_ 7y ago

BonesJustice 7y ago

Might have to do with wanting to avoid people trying to game the system? Not that I expect the shroud of secrecy to actually mitigate that problem.

droithomme 7y ago
The purpose of this sort of secrecy is to avoid people seeing how the system is gamed against them.
- cm2187 7y ago
  Or rather to keep the capacity to arbitrage the system to insiders.
- xhkkffbf 7y ago
  You seem to think that the system will be used to boost kids with high adversity scores. Many colleges desperately want kids who will pay full tuition. But they also want to claim they're "need blind." Voila. The "adversity" score tells them whether the kids came from a rich neighborhood.
  - BonesJustice 7y ago
    Actually, there was an interesting link posted here a while back[1] that explored how non-profit colleges have a vested interest in making sure at least half of their students cannot afford full tuition. To keep their tax exempt status, they must act as a “charity” by extending financial aid to at least half of their students. The tax-exempt status enables them to invest their endowment without paying taxes on the gains. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18792515 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18792515

hrktb 7y ago

If this score is to replace the current college admission weighting, wouldn’t it be logical for it to have the same opacity from the student ? Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think students get to check their college admission evaluation results.

daseiner1 7y ago
You're aware of your SAT scores, you're aware of your transcripts; you're aware of your essays and extra-curriculars; you aren't aware (or aren't supposed to be) of the content of your recommendation letters, but you can choose who you have write them. So sure, give this the same visibility as all of the above and make it visible to the student.
- hrktb 7y ago
  The difference is these informations are produced or sourced by you, the extra 'adversity score', and what it replaces are external to you (and in this case it's not even personal) I see the issue with info circulating outside of your oversight that has impact on your life, I am just thinking they are basically keeping the status quo on this.