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Tbh the oura ring has been a game changer for a data nerd like me. I can easily see how some exercise in the day actually impacts my HRV[1] and then the quality
by fizwhiz 7y ago
Tbh the oura ring has been a game changer for a data nerd like me. I can easily see how some exercise in the day actually impacts my HRV[1] and then the quality of my sleep. Had a heavy night of drinking? Watch what the oura ring reports not just on the same night but even the next night :) Basically if you're thinking of starting your own "protocol" for sleep and would like to A/B test what works and what seems like superfluous ceremony, the oura ring is a cost-effective way to measure the effectiveness of said protocol.
I think the protocol described in the article isn't anything terribly new. Most folks on HN know that blue light actually messes with sleep so if you're planning on using a screen until right before you goto bed it's a great idea to use the blue-light canceling computer glasses. Mindfulness meditation is generally a great practice to calm oneself and be reflective. I don't personally sleep at 8:45pm (rather, 11:45pm) but I do have my meal a few hours before I goto bed. I also don't drink much water closer to bedtime so I'm not rudely awakened in the middle of the night to urinate. I live in a place where the black-out blinds aren't a necessity. I've never messed with deep sound waves.
Of course, some folks will exclaim "Well I don't need a device to give me a report card on how well it thinks I slept!" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[1] https://ouraring.com/heart-rate-variability-basics/ https://ouraring.com/heart-rate-variability-basics/
- Hamuko 7y agoI have trouble justifying spending 314 euros on a sleep-tracking ring.
- mirceal 7y agoit depends. do you have 314 in disposable income? is health really important for you?
- Hamuko 7y agoYeah, I probably have the cash. But it's just for tracking sleep. I know that I sleep like shit. I go to bed at 0030 and wake up at 0700. Don't really know what difference the ring would make here. No idea what the ring would tell me what I don't really know and how in the world I would turn the data into something usable.
- rexpop 7y agoWhat's the next thing you'll try to improve your sleep?
- village-idiot 7y agoIt seems that getting more than 4 hours of it would be a good start.
- mirceal 7y agoso there are several levels to "improving your sleep". I agree that if you sleep like shit and only get 4 hours per night you don't need the ring. you need to get more sleep. but for some people that actually sleep well and want to tweak the quality of their sleep it can be valuable. let me give a few example of such tweaks: altering the time you go to bed, altering the surface you sleep on, reducing the amount of blue light you get, playing with the temperature in the room, not using screens X hours before going to bed, not eating X hours before going to bed. I could go on. The point I'm trying to make is that if you already get enough sleep (or you think you get enough sleep) the ring might help you. yes - the price is ridiculous. but it's not about the price, it's about improving a [very] important aspect of your life. If you want to be scared shitless into paying attention to your sleep I recommend: "Why We Sleep" by Matthew Walker. Everything from cognitive abilities, fertility, risk of cancer and other diseases can be influenced by poor quality sleep. Sleep, along with eating properly and exercise is a pillar for a good quality life. I believe it's worth making it a priority.
- fizwhiz 7y agoSaid it better than I could.
- wuunderbar 7y agoMy problem is when this company fizzles out in 2 years and stops servicing or supporting their product. If Apple make made something like this, I may bite.
- killerdhmo 7y agoThey do, it's called the Apple Watch. I find if I charge it in the morning and night while I'm brushing my teeth, the battery lasts all day. And there's a few apps that do good sleep reporting. I like AutoSleep and SleepWatch
- komali2 7y agoBut you have to have an iPhone to use it.
- atomical 7y agoIf it's important to him he might ask his doctor or head to Cochrane Collab?
- DenisM 7y agoDid you really need a $300 device to tell you that a night of drinking will undermine your sleep?
- llamataboot 7y agoI didn't need one to know that, but I was surprised by how little drinking would change my resting heart rate (even two beers at dinner might keep my heart rate elevated for half of the night) and by how much/how long heavy drinking can affect RHR/HRV - a heavy night might affect RHR for 2-3 days...
- electricslpnsld 7y agoMeasurements are a great motivator! When I was starting an exercise regime being able to track my progress with a WiFi scale was a huge help. Losing one or two pounds didn’t make a huge visual difference, but damned if I wanted to keep driving that line down.
- hawaiian 7y agoI don't think the product is targeted at people questioning the health effects of their heavy drinking, but rather at people questioning the effects of endurance training, long commutes, or other habits that may be inadvertently causing them long-term harm.
- novok 7y agoWhy use this over an apple watch or fitbit?
- 0xffff2 7y agoDoes the Apple Watch do sleep tracking out of the box now? I was one of the 5 people who bought a Microsoft Band, and I really enjoyed the sleep tracking features. I still haven't pulled the trigger on an Apple Watch since switching to and iPhone because it (used to?) lack sleep tracking as a feature.
- bredren 7y agoNo. It still is intended to charge overnight. Apple store sells other sleep tracking products at this time.
- ihuman 7y agoIt charges fast enough that you can wear it almost 24/7 if you plan ahead and charge for a bit in the morning and at night https://david-smith.org/blog/2015/09/21/how-to-wear-your-apple-watch-24-slash-7/ https://david-smith.org/blog/2015/09/21/how-to-wear-your-app...
- ma2rten 7y agoThere are sleep tracking apps that integrate with the health app, but I tried two of them (sleep++ and pillow) and I found them to be very inaccurate.
- killerdhmo 7y agoIt does, I like AutoSleep and SleepWatch to track my sleep, and as a fellow poster added, you can get by with just a few minutes of charging in the morning and night
- jniedrauer 7y agoOr a use Garmin watch, and get even more metrics. It's like strapping the elastic stack to your body.
- HansLandaa 7y agoCool! I have a Whoop. I purchased it before they started the subscription model. https://www.whoop.com/the-locker/team-thrive-average-hrv-on-rise/ https://www.whoop.com/the-locker/team-thrive-average-hrv-on-...
- rconti 7y agoThe Whoop might be great, but I just can't get behind any product that used those obnoxious ads (I saw it on Instagram) that hype the product without telling you what it is. Clickbait advertising doesn't work on me, I guess. I might be interested, if they explained it.
- kerng 7y agoThe stats imply that it's very inaccurate in tracking sleep phases - you probably know better yourself the day after.