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I kinda like Bosch and props to them for their investment, but isn't offsetting CO2 kinda like sending your trash to China and then complaining how they ruin th

I kinda like Bosch and props to them for their investment, but isn't offsetting CO2 kinda like sending your trash to China and then complaining how they ruin the planet?

batmenace 7y ago
surely it depends on how you offset your CO2, no? Makes a difference if its through using planting trees etc.
weinzierl 7y ago
> I kinda like Bosch Bosch is indeed interesting because it is over 90% owned by a charitable foundation, the rest is family property.
- clarry 7y ago
  Damn, now I feel like I made the wrong choice when I bought into the Ryobi One+ power tools. Would be nice if we just had batteries that are compatible across different manufacturers' lines. Sigh.
  - sjs382 7y ago
    As long as the voltage is the same, you can buy or make (3d printed plus a little bit of wiring—you can find files on thingiverse) adapters. The 20V line of DeWalt, Porter Cable and Craftsman are all compatible with slight modifications to the plastic on the battery housing. I know that's too much effort for most people, but it's nice to know that it's possible.
PorterDuff 7y ago
It's a big company, but the average person is only exposed to their power tools. So what percentage of their tools are made in China now? How much of their manufacturing generally?
gwbas1c 7y ago
You gotta start somewhere
- steve_adams_86 7y ago
  I don't disagree, but starting here is still very, very close to the starting line. To me it feels like lazily standing up to begin walking to the starting line, rather than having already left on the race. We're all very far from doing anything remotely meaningful in this endeavour.
gdubs 7y ago
It costs money to capture carbon — whether it’s reforestation, or switching pasture to organic farming, scaling up an aquatic carbon sink of some kind, etc. So it’s definitely beneficial. And with properly audited trade markets, it should be reliable for “cancelling” emissions. At the moment it’s cheap. But as the market becomes saturated it’ll naturally get more expensive to offset; ideally that leads to innovations in other ways of reducing emissions. And, of course, we need to eventually get to negative emissions to reverse the warming we’ve already locked in.

I kinda like Bosch and props to them for their investment, but isn't offsetting CO2 kinda like sending your trash to China and then complaining how they ruin the planet?

batmenace 7y ago

surely it depends on how you offset your CO2, no? Makes a difference if its through using planting trees etc.

weinzierl 7y ago

> I kinda like Bosch Bosch is indeed interesting because it is over 90% owned by a charitable foundation, the rest is family property.

clarry 7y ago
Damn, now I feel like I made the wrong choice when I bought into the Ryobi One+ power tools. Would be nice if we just had batteries that are compatible across different manufacturers' lines. Sigh.
- sjs382 7y ago
  As long as the voltage is the same, you can buy or make (3d printed plus a little bit of wiring—you can find files on thingiverse) adapters. The 20V line of DeWalt, Porter Cable and Craftsman are all compatible with slight modifications to the plastic on the battery housing. I know that's too much effort for most people, but it's nice to know that it's possible.

PorterDuff 7y ago

It's a big company, but the average person is only exposed to their power tools. So what percentage of their tools are made in China now? How much of their manufacturing generally?

gwbas1c 7y ago

You gotta start somewhere

steve_adams_86 7y ago
I don't disagree, but starting here is still very, very close to the starting line. To me it feels like lazily standing up to begin walking to the starting line, rather than having already left on the race. We're all very far from doing anything remotely meaningful in this endeavour.

gdubs 7y ago

It costs money to capture carbon — whether it’s reforestation, or switching pasture to organic farming, scaling up an aquatic carbon sink of some kind, etc. So it’s definitely beneficial. And with properly audited trade markets, it should be reliable for “cancelling” emissions. At the moment it’s cheap. But as the market becomes saturated it’ll naturally get more expensive to offset; ideally that leads to innovations in other ways of reducing emissions. And, of course, we need to eventually get to negative emissions to reverse the warming we’ve already locked in.