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I'm sure Indians gonna raise a huge noise over this. >How can it be the oldest? ultimately it'll boil down to what one knows versus what one can prove.

by tsjq 7y ago

Kalium 7y ago
It's very easy to have family folklore that a dhaba has been operating at a location for a thousand years. Proving it might be more complex.
yumraj 7y ago
1) The above comment is rather condescending 2) 100 years is nothing in Indian history 3) Our ancestral home, which still stands, is over 150 years old and there are small eateries below which have been family run for ever and are vegetarian. 4) There are probably 1000s of 100 year old vegetarian restaurants in India. Granted they are not probably as fancy as the one in Switzerland, but they are vegetarian and restaurants and over 100 year old nonetheless. 5) If the post said in Europe, I'll believe. But given history of Asia, I have no doubt that it is not the oldest vegetarian restaurant.
- billfruit 7y ago
  Problem with most of Indian History is lack of written or otherwise corroborating evidence. Also the claim is not for the oldest, but oldest continusly running. Even then the ship of Theseus argument can be raised.
  - sachdevap 7y ago
    And the Ship of Theseus argument does not apply to Haus Hiltl because ... ?
  - chimeracoder 7y ago
    > Problem with most of Indian History is lack of written or otherwise corroborating evidence. That's what tends to happen when invaders literally blow up your temples and libraries, burn your books, etc.
  - yumraj 7y ago
    Yes, in my argument I had meant continuos running. These are family run restaurants. Started by great (or great-great or great-...-great) grandfather of current owners, serving limited menu of family recipes. BTW: all that I said applies to large parts of Asia if the OP was not focused on just vegetarian restaurants, where India has an edge.
sachdevap 7y ago
"I'm sure Indians gonna raise a huge noise over this." Should people not refute incorrect claims vigorously? This is whitewashing of history plain and simple. The West has a habit of ignoring the East when discussing accomplishments. Case in point is the West ignoring the contribution of Indian soldiers in the World Wars. E.g. Dunkirk - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-40724861 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-40724861

I'm sure Indians gonna raise a huge noise over this. >How can it be the oldest? ultimately it'll boil down to what one knows versus what one can prove.

by tsjq 7y ago

I'm sure Indians gonna raise a huge noise over this. >How can it be the oldest? ultimately it'll boil down to what one knows versus what one can prove.

Kalium 7y ago

It's very easy to have family folklore that a dhaba has been operating at a location for a thousand years. Proving it might be more complex.

yumraj 7y ago

1) The above comment is rather condescending 2) 100 years is nothing in Indian history 3) Our ancestral home, which still stands, is over 150 years old and there are small eateries below which have been family run for ever and are vegetarian. 4) There are probably 1000s of 100 year old vegetarian restaurants in India. Granted they are not probably as fancy as the one in Switzerland, but they are vegetarian and restaurants and over 100 year old nonetheless. 5) If the post said in Europe, I'll believe. But given history of Asia, I have no doubt that it is not the oldest vegetarian restaurant.

billfruit 7y ago
Problem with most of Indian History is lack of written or otherwise corroborating evidence. Also the claim is not for the oldest, but oldest continusly running. Even then the ship of Theseus argument can be raised.
- sachdevap 7y ago
  And the Ship of Theseus argument does not apply to Haus Hiltl because ... ?
- chimeracoder 7y ago
  > Problem with most of Indian History is lack of written or otherwise corroborating evidence. That's what tends to happen when invaders literally blow up your temples and libraries, burn your books, etc.
- yumraj 7y ago
  Yes, in my argument I had meant continuos running. These are family run restaurants. Started by great (or great-great or great-...-great) grandfather of current owners, serving limited menu of family recipes. BTW: all that I said applies to large parts of Asia if the OP was not focused on just vegetarian restaurants, where India has an edge.

sachdevap 7y ago

"I'm sure Indians gonna raise a huge noise over this." Should people not refute incorrect claims vigorously? This is whitewashing of history plain and simple. The West has a habit of ignoring the East when discussing accomplishments. Case in point is the West ignoring the contribution of Indian soldiers in the World Wars. E.g. Dunkirk - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-40724861 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-40724861