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The US does this, but I'm glad it's a country where we value being able to openly criticize our government for it. We have an independent judiciary, democratic
by wallace_f 7y ago
The US does this, but I'm glad it's a country where we value being able to openly criticize our government for it.
We have an independent judiciary, democratic institutions--what are structural Separations of Powers which is the most important structure of a civilization consistent with liberty.
China doesn't have that. Saying the US also cheats the rules, too, is important, but shouldn't be confused with the reality that China does it much more abhorrently.
- ionised 7y ago> The US does this, but I'm glad it's a country where we value being able to openly criticize our government for it. Around half of your population don't seem to want that at all as long as 'their guy' is in power.
- sgift 7y agoThe US has many problems, but there's a big difference between people being unhappy with you and being send into "reeducation camps" if the government doesn't like what you say.
- boomboomsubban 7y agoThere's also a major difference between being sent to reeducation camps and being killed by a drone strike. The US may tolerate dissent inside their borders better, but far worse overall.
- stallmanite 7y agoNot sure re-education camp is a step up from drone strike. Depends on your priorities I suppose.
- boomboomsubban 7y agoIf you prefer death to a reeducation camp, that choice is likely available to you. The dead have no choice.
- coldtea 7y agoWhy choose when you can have both? From the native american's re-education camps, to off-system prisons (black sites and the like).
- thefounder 7y agoYeah, sure and how is that Huawei ended up being banned without due process? Europeans are not sparred either using the Justice Department or a straight out tariff(i.e steel, cars etc) https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/ax5hwm/economic_war_how_american_justice_targets_foreign/ https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/ax5hwm/economic_war...
- wallace_f 7y agoTrue. And every US company is by default basically banned from China unless they want to let you in.
- baybal2 7y agoI wonder, how they will sing if Xi will get angry for real this time and call for something like blanket ban on exports to US. If you think of China as a rational player who can be "mindgamed around" take in mind that Xi has goood record of shooting himself in the foot politically, which he has been doing consistently through his reign. Americans have really have nothing to mentally reference when dealing with this type of person — USA never had real hereditary nobility. You are dealing somebody much more of a medieval lord than a nation leader. Think if a person who own a giant company as a proprietorship vs. a CEO of public corporation with a lot of vigilant investors.
- thefounder 7y agoUS being the world's superpower has experience with communists, dictators, royals and all kind of leaders. The only issue here is that China is the 2nd world economic power so it's a bit harder to use the stick.
- baybal2 7y agoUS has no experience, it looses it once every electoral term
- Riverheart 7y ago
- msiyer 7y agoThe government goes to war\implements policy 1. People criticize. The government continues war\policy 1. People continue criticizing. The government starts war\implements policy 2. People criticize. The government continues war\policy 1 and war\policy 2. People continue criticizing. ...
- hombre_fatal 7y agoForward slash (/) is punctuation in English. Back slash is not.
- msiyer 7y agoMy eyes have been seeing a lot of Windows local file paths lately. Nothing that a couple of days of Linux\FreeBSD cannot cure.
- mises 7y agoReally? We are currently disengaging in Syria. We left Iraq. If people had cared that much about leaving earlier, we would have left earlier because they would have made it an important issue of a campaign. A couple people criticizing it do not change policy. This is the flaw of the tyranny of the majority, which is why we are set up to allow more power to state and local governments. Of course, Iran is now threatening free trade through the straits of hormuz. Would you call intervention to protect free passage "toppling foreign governments" because they "make decisions we don't like"?
- msiyer 7y ago>> If people had cared that much about leaving earlier... It really does not matter. US of A could never prove the existence of WMD in Iraq. In fact, all of their claims have been proven to be wrong. Millions dead. People who started the war are enjoying retirement sipping on the costliest wines.
- agent008t 7y agoRhetoric- and you believe it! Don’t you know where those slogans come from? Well-paid researchers - how do you say it? - "think tanks," funded by big businesses. What is that? A "think tank"? China is the last sovereign country in the world. Authoritarian but willing - unlike U.N.-governed countries - to give its people the freedom to do what they want. The West, so afraid of strong government, now has no government. Only financial power.
- cc81 7y agoWhat does that have to do with free trade and the actions around it? I mean a Chinese person can say that they are glad to live in a country that does not invade other countries, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people.
- Lunatic666 7y agoTibet? Treatment of Muslims in the country?
- xuki 7y agoIt’s not to the extent of the US but China did invade other countries in the past. Vietnamese people sure want to have some words with you.
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- codedokode 7y agoWhile separation of powers is a great thing for protection of human rights, it doesn't change anything for international treaties. No matter whether country is democratic or not, they will try to push terms that are beneficial to them rather than to other countries.