I've never been a fan of using frameworks; I prefer putting libraries together so I have the greatest control over the entire stack. However recently I've been

I've never been a fan of using frameworks; I prefer putting libraries together so I have the greatest control over the entire stack. However recently I've been looking into: http://symfony-reloaded.org/ http://symfony-reloaded.org/ I have a lot of respect for the authors considering the other work they've done. Thanks for the lead on Yii, and OP: your stuff looks pretty good too!