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Hopefully we don't all die in wildfires, food and clean water shortages before then.

Waterluvian 7y ago
Millions of people are displaced yearly by war. It'll just be by climate change too. It's not new for us. It's just more of the same awfulness. Humanity will be fine. We just will have to learn to live without all the cool stuff we like, like polar bears and butterflies and Amsterdam.
- outworlder 7y ago
  > We just will have to learn to live without all the cool stuff we like Like arable land.
  - zaroth 7y ago
    You lose arable land at the equator and gain it closer to the poles. Studies don’t generally see a large net decrease in arable land due to climate change. Erosion is the bigger problem, 1/3rd of all arable land lost over the last 40 years. [1] [1] - https://www.businessinsider.com/earth-has-lost-a-third-of-arable-land-in-past-40-years-2015-12 https://www.businessinsider.com/earth-has-lost-a-third-of-ar...
    - luckydata 7y ago
      In the next 40 we will lose the rest of it. It's going to make a lot of folks very hungry, have you read "the road"? I would rather not live there, thank you very much.
      - rectang 7y ago
        In idle moments, I daydream of a wager where people who are concerned about climate change bet with those who are unconcerned. If climate change turns out to be mild, the unconcerned get the money. If it's severe, they die.
        luckydata 7y ago
        Why would such a bet be useful then?
- luckydata 7y ago
  You are in serious denial. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/06/climate/biodiversity-extinction-united-nations.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/06/climate/biodiversity-exti... What's happening right now is absolutely unprecedented and it will kill a lot of people. It's demoralizing how even within a crowd that's supposed to value science we have people waving away what's happening right now.
  - Waterluvian 7y ago
    You're completely misreprenting what I'm saying. Yes, it will kill a lot of people. And it's a disaster. But humanity will adapt and be fine. Kind of like how humanity survived world wars doesn't discount how awful those wars were.
    - deleted 7y ago
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    - luckydata 7y ago
      Yeah, that's denial. We're on the path to extinction if we don't seriously change something.
      - kebman 7y ago
        Oh don't be a doomer! Greta Thunberg is more optimistic than you! xD Oh wait, no she isn't. The end is nigh!
  - jlarocco 7y ago
    On the other hand, humans driving ourselves extinct might be the best long term scenario for the rest of life on Earth. Realistically, the universe doesn't care one way or the other about us.
    - TeMPOraL 7y ago
      Yes, and so what? There's nothing else in the known universe that's capable of caring. The only good outcome seems to be us surviving.

Millions of people are displaced yearly by war. It'll just be by climate change too. It's not new for us. It's just more of the same awfulness. Humanity will be fine. We just will have to learn to live without all the cool stuff we like, like polar bears and butterflies and Amsterdam.

outworlder 7y ago
> We just will have to learn to live without all the cool stuff we like Like arable land.
- zaroth 7y ago
  You lose arable land at the equator and gain it closer to the poles. Studies don’t generally see a large net decrease in arable land due to climate change. Erosion is the bigger problem, 1/3rd of all arable land lost over the last 40 years. [1] [1] - https://www.businessinsider.com/earth-has-lost-a-third-of-arable-land-in-past-40-years-2015-12 https://www.businessinsider.com/earth-has-lost-a-third-of-ar...
  - luckydata 7y ago
    In the next 40 we will lose the rest of it. It's going to make a lot of folks very hungry, have you read "the road"? I would rather not live there, thank you very much.
    - rectang 7y ago
      In idle moments, I daydream of a wager where people who are concerned about climate change bet with those who are unconcerned. If climate change turns out to be mild, the unconcerned get the money. If it's severe, they die.
      - luckydata 7y ago
        Why would such a bet be useful then?
luckydata 7y ago
You are in serious denial. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/06/climate/biodiversity-extinction-united-nations.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/06/climate/biodiversity-exti... What's happening right now is absolutely unprecedented and it will kill a lot of people. It's demoralizing how even within a crowd that's supposed to value science we have people waving away what's happening right now.
- Waterluvian 7y ago
  You're completely misreprenting what I'm saying. Yes, it will kill a lot of people. And it's a disaster. But humanity will adapt and be fine. Kind of like how humanity survived world wars doesn't discount how awful those wars were.
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - luckydata 7y ago
    Yeah, that's denial. We're on the path to extinction if we don't seriously change something.
    - kebman 7y ago
      Oh don't be a doomer! Greta Thunberg is more optimistic than you! xD Oh wait, no she isn't. The end is nigh!
- jlarocco 7y ago
  On the other hand, humans driving ourselves extinct might be the best long term scenario for the rest of life on Earth. Realistically, the universe doesn't care one way or the other about us.
  - TeMPOraL 7y ago
    Yes, and so what? There's nothing else in the known universe that's capable of caring. The only good outcome seems to be us surviving.