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Surely there is some team that develops OS X. That is the OS X team.
by anbop 7y ago
Surely there is some team that develops OS X. That is the OS X team.
- astericks 7y agoWell, officially, OS X doesn't exist anymore. It's "Mac OS" now I believe. But yes, they'd be the Mac OS team
- saagarjha 7y agomacOS
- Wowfunhappy 7y agoThe full name was always "Mac OS X" and the most-major version number is still 10, so...
- larkost 7y agoNo, much of the codebase is shared, and where the codebase is not shared the teams usually are. There are undoutably exceptions to this, and this may fall into one of those, but your blanket statement is just not how Apple operates internally.
- thelopa 7y agoNot sure if you're being sarcastic, but they are right. there isn't an OSX team. Apple doesn't slice things up that way. If there were an OSX team then surely there would be a manager for that team, right? The only person that could plausibly fill that role is Craig Federighi... but he arguably fills the same role for iOS, too. In the Scott Forstall days, there was a distinct iOS team (Scott) and a distinct OSX team (Craig). now there isn't.
- anbop 7y agoSure, there is one exec, but there must be someone under him who is responsible for OS X.
- shuckles 7y agoNope. Craig’s directs are responsible for apps and all the platforms those apps ship on or cross-platform technologies that power apps.
- skywhopper 7y agoI'm not sure what point you are trying to make here. macOS is a product. With releases, features, etc. Someone or some group of people must necessarily make decisions about what makes up "macOS 10.14.5". Even if that team is "Craig and his direct reports" or whatever, and even if that team has other responsibilities.
- shuckles 7y agoFor example, I believe if macOS had a dedicated VP with specialized software teams like the type we are speculating here, my guess is we would have fewer bugs of this sort than we do now.
- russh 7y agoThis is my take as well.
- favorited 7y ago> Even if that team is "Craig and his direct reports" or whatever, and even if that team has other responsibilities. And if those "other responsibilities" are iOS, tvOS, and watchOS, then there is no "macOS team." There is the software engineering organization.
- anbop 7y agoI don’t get what you’re trying to express. Is there anyone at Apple who works only on Mac OS? The senior most such person is the de facto boss of Mac OS.
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- Wowfunhappy 7y ago> In the Scott Forstall days, there was a distinct iOS team (Scott) and a distinct OSX team (Craig). now there isn't. Frankly, maybe that's exactly the problem. He left in 2012, and that definitely feels like around when things started going downhill. I don't know what stuff is like under the hood, but from a user perspective, iOS and macOS are two very different platforms that are good at very different things. I'm sure there is a lot of tech that can be shared between them, but some individual focus would likely be beneficial as well.