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tl;dr: Upload your contact lists to your service provider so that your service provider can block calls from people not in your contact list. If the blocking d

tl;dr: Upload your contact lists to your service provider so that your service provider can block calls from people not in your contact list. If the blocking doesn't work completely from within my own device then it's going to be a no from me.

chrisfinazzo 8y ago
How would this account for (legitimate) blocked numbers or those that originate behind a switch? I get calls from recruiters from time to time that do this as a matter of course. Although I have no expectation the GOP would actually do this, I would add an asterisk to the policy... * If you use these lists for marketing to existing customers, we reserve the right to sue you out of existence. Kindly GFY.
- chadash 8y ago
  > * I get calls from recruiters from time to time that do this as a matter of course.* If this gets widespread adoption, then recruiters and legitimate robocalls will come up with solutions. The problem I have is that if I block all unknown numbers, I'll also be blocking my bank/credit card/pharmacy or other legitimate robocalls. So I can't do this myself. But if everyone blocks unknown calls, these entities will be forced to come up with a solution (e.g. sending out emails instead). The particular example you give of recruiters with blocked numbers rubs me the wrong way. Like you can call me out of the blue and interrupt my work day, and you're not even exposing your phone number? Good riddance.
  - chrisfinazzo 8y ago
    They likely do it so they don't have people calling back a direct line on a whim. Usually will ask me to call a different number if I'm actually interested.
- inetknght 8y ago
  How do you define "legitimate"? Because however you define it, there will undoubtedly be a more legitimate way of contacting the person.
chipperyman573 8y ago
Can't you already do this from your own device? Android and iOS both let you block calls that aren't from people in your contacts.
- jotux 8y ago
  I specifically purchased an app on my android device ("Call Blocker") to do this, but recently google changed it's play store policies and banned apps from directly forcing calls to voice mail. I think the only way to do it on an android device currently is to put your phone in "Do Not Disturb" mode and only allow calls from your contact list. Edit: Just checked again on my phone. Even if you specifically tell do not disturb to only allow calls from your contact list they still pop up on the screen and they don't go straight to voicemail. Google seems to have outright banned any behavior that sends calls directly to voicemail without a notification. I'm on a pixel 3 with google fi.
logfromblammo 8y ago
1. Network contacts device with a request for synchronous voice communication, including identifying information from the originating party. 2. Device consults its own program, controlled by the subscriber-recipient, and responds with a signal to the network regarding the disposition of the call. 3. The network will then relay that signal to the originator, who may be required to respond one or more times before any human even knows someone is calling. In short, I'd like the service providers to give me options other than "connect the call" and "send the call directly to voice mail and notify me anyway". I also want, at least, "refuse the call immediately without me knowing anything about it", "pay me a toll before I allow my phone to get my attention for you", and "prove you are the real person that you claim to be before I ring my phone on your behalf". I'd like to be able to whitelist all my contacts so they ring immediately, and blacklist some numbers that will always get a fast busy signal every time they call my number. Ideally, there would also be some way to validate that the caller id number belongs to the call originator, perhaps by sending a nonce to the number claimed, and requiring that the originator repeat it in the current call session. The provider can handle a simple program for land lines, dumb phones, or other phones that can't understand the newer protocol, but given that smartphones are pocket computers, I want to be able to control my own device without some third party stepping in and possibly selling me out.
- politician 8y ago
  This is a much better solution that has no chance of seeing the light of day because it keeps your contact information and routing preferences private.
  - logfromblammo 8y ago
    Ernestine strikes again.
    - inetknght 7y ago
      I don't understand this reference. Can you elaborate?

chrisfinazzo 8y ago

How would this account for (legitimate) blocked numbers or those that originate behind a switch? I get calls from recruiters from time to time that do this as a matter of course. Although I have no expectation the GOP would actually do this, I would add an asterisk to the policy... * If you use these lists for marketing to existing customers, we reserve the right to sue you out of existence. Kindly GFY.

chadash 8y ago
> * I get calls from recruiters from time to time that do this as a matter of course.* If this gets widespread adoption, then recruiters and legitimate robocalls will come up with solutions. The problem I have is that if I block all unknown numbers, I'll also be blocking my bank/credit card/pharmacy or other legitimate robocalls. So I can't do this myself. But if everyone blocks unknown calls, these entities will be forced to come up with a solution (e.g. sending out emails instead). The particular example you give of recruiters with blocked numbers rubs me the wrong way. Like you can call me out of the blue and interrupt my work day, and you're not even exposing your phone number? Good riddance.
- chrisfinazzo 8y ago
  They likely do it so they don't have people calling back a direct line on a whim. Usually will ask me to call a different number if I'm actually interested.
inetknght 8y ago
How do you define "legitimate"? Because however you define it, there will undoubtedly be a more legitimate way of contacting the person.

chipperyman573 8y ago

Can't you already do this from your own device? Android and iOS both let you block calls that aren't from people in your contacts.

jotux 8y ago
I specifically purchased an app on my android device ("Call Blocker") to do this, but recently google changed it's play store policies and banned apps from directly forcing calls to voice mail. I think the only way to do it on an android device currently is to put your phone in "Do Not Disturb" mode and only allow calls from your contact list. Edit: Just checked again on my phone. Even if you specifically tell do not disturb to only allow calls from your contact list they still pop up on the screen and they don't go straight to voicemail. Google seems to have outright banned any behavior that sends calls directly to voicemail without a notification. I'm on a pixel 3 with google fi.

logfromblammo 8y ago

1. Network contacts device with a request for synchronous voice communication, including identifying information from the originating party. 2. Device consults its own program, controlled by the subscriber-recipient, and responds with a signal to the network regarding the disposition of the call. 3. The network will then relay that signal to the originator, who may be required to respond one or more times before any human even knows someone is calling. In short, I'd like the service providers to give me options other than "connect the call" and "send the call directly to voice mail and notify me anyway". I also want, at least, "refuse the call immediately without me knowing anything about it", "pay me a toll before I allow my phone to get my attention for you", and "prove you are the real person that you claim to be before I ring my phone on your behalf". I'd like to be able to whitelist all my contacts so they ring immediately, and blacklist some numbers that will always get a fast busy signal every time they call my number. Ideally, there would also be some way to validate that the caller id number belongs to the call originator, perhaps by sending a nonce to the number claimed, and requiring that the originator repeat it in the current call session. The provider can handle a simple program for land lines, dumb phones, or other phones that can't understand the newer protocol, but given that smartphones are pocket computers, I want to be able to control my own device without some third party stepping in and possibly selling me out.

politician 8y ago
This is a much better solution that has no chance of seeing the light of day because it keeps your contact information and routing preferences private.
- logfromblammo 8y ago
  Ernestine strikes again.
  - inetknght 7y ago
    I don't understand this reference. Can you elaborate?