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I'm not sure to what extent YTMND itself would be archivable. The last I saw it it loaded frames with some Flash loader, which handled sync with the audio (as o

I'm not sure to what extent YTMND itself would be archivable. The last I saw it it loaded frames with some Flash loader, which handled sync with the audio (as opposed to the very early YTMNDs which were just a gif/audio and text). Places like tumblr and reddit are much more easily archivable as they're just text and image files, and now video files which with modern web standards can just be grabbed as is and put into archival systems with automatic transcoding as standards change. I just hope whoever was running it at the end makes the archive publicly available.

skocznymroczny 7y ago
Was it loading any Flash or it was a Flash app provided by the website that you could upload your content to? I know of a certain adult website which hosts "webteases", which are basically interactive/choose your own adventure slideshows. The content was originally provided with Flash, but now they reworked it to use HTML5 and most of the content seems to work because it was using the website provided framework for the content.
- testplzignore 7y ago
  IIRC, you would upload wav or mp3 to YTMND, and then it would play back in Flash. I think it worked like this for one or both of these reasons: 1. Syncing the audio and video. It is difficult to sync a gif with audio. They have to be started at the exact same time, be the exact same length, and never get out of sync due to lag/stutter. This wasn't important for early YTMNDs, but mattered later when people created what were disparagingly referred to as "___ short films". 2. Bandwidth. I think Max had said the Flash solution was more efficient than serving the raw audio and gif. Think of it as an early version of WebM. I think the use of Flash could be controlled on a per-YTMND basis - the creator could disable the use of Flash. And/or maybe it was that Flash was only used for animated gifs?
kalleboo 7y ago
The Wayback Machine version works fine for me in Safari, but it's just a matter of time until Flash is completely dead. http://web.archive.org/web/20190402083155/http://ckjcwf.ytmnd.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/20190402083155/http://ckjcwf.ytmn... edit: ironically, one of the non-flash versions doesn't work in Safari since it doesn't like a raw MP3 file in an OBJECT tag. The MP3 file is there though. https://web.archive.org/web/20060603154932/marioteachesptkfgs.ytmnd.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20060603154932/marioteachesptkfg...

skocznymroczny 7y ago

Was it loading any Flash or it was a Flash app provided by the website that you could upload your content to? I know of a certain adult website which hosts "webteases", which are basically interactive/choose your own adventure slideshows. The content was originally provided with Flash, but now they reworked it to use HTML5 and most of the content seems to work because it was using the website provided framework for the content.

testplzignore 7y ago
IIRC, you would upload wav or mp3 to YTMND, and then it would play back in Flash. I think it worked like this for one or both of these reasons: 1. Syncing the audio and video. It is difficult to sync a gif with audio. They have to be started at the exact same time, be the exact same length, and never get out of sync due to lag/stutter. This wasn't important for early YTMNDs, but mattered later when people created what were disparagingly referred to as "___ short films". 2. Bandwidth. I think Max had said the Flash solution was more efficient than serving the raw audio and gif. Think of it as an early version of WebM. I think the use of Flash could be controlled on a per-YTMND basis - the creator could disable the use of Flash. And/or maybe it was that Flash was only used for animated gifs?

kalleboo 7y ago

The Wayback Machine version works fine for me in Safari, but it's just a matter of time until Flash is completely dead. http://web.archive.org/web/20190402083155/http://ckjcwf.ytmnd.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/20190402083155/http://ckjcwf.ytmn... edit: ironically, one of the non-flash versions doesn't work in Safari since it doesn't like a raw MP3 file in an OBJECT tag. The MP3 file is there though. https://web.archive.org/web/20060603154932/marioteachesptkfgs.ytmnd.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20060603154932/marioteachesptkfg...