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as a dev ->This is pretty great - no more having to support users who refuse to update apps/are using some hacked version of your app in order to access older A

as a dev ->This is pretty great - no more having to support users who refuse to update apps/are using some hacked version of your app in order to access older APIs you're supporting for older versions of apps. I envision this settling into a LTS version and rapidly updating(or even beta) versioning system - which large app devs like whatsapp already do. as a user ->i already switch to an app's beta ASAP, this makes doing that unnecessary(if the dev is smart about it and doesn't just force updates for monetisation) People complaining are forgetting that apps aren't applications - they're small and easily forgotten/uninstalled unless they come up with something new and exciting - which right now is locked behind a clunky visit to the clunky play store. Apps controlling updates isn't me having less control - i always have the power to uninstall an app if it gets irritating about updates. The new feedback/rating system means that apps that mess this up will plummet rapider than before in the play store too!This feedback loop gives me more insight as a user into a devs practices vs before just hoping a popular app was decent about updates. Google files explorer even encourages you to uninstall apps you don't use for a long time to save space - which (anecdotally) finally led me to nuking all adobe products from my phone and life and switching to arguably better paid app alternatives for mobile.

JohnFen 7y ago
> Apps controlling updates isn't me having less control Yes, it totally is. > i always have the power to uninstall an app if it gets irritating about updates. So, if I have an app that works perfectly well, then it force-upgrades to a form that doesn't, my only choice is to stop using that app? I should be able to continue use the version that works for me. If I can't, then I don't have control over my own machine.
- kkarakk 7y ago
  Well yes, from a business perspective the app dev wants to take the app in a direction that doesn't align with your usecase. your recourses are 1.leave a bad review 2.uninstall the app That is literally the contract between you and the app dev btw, they aren't obligated to try and keep users if it doesn't make sense business wise and you aren't obligated to stick with them any longer. This is the dark side of the freemium model i guess but how does it make sense for an app dev to provide you free use of their idea by you using an older version of their app(if their business model doesn't align with that)?
koala_man 7y ago
> People complaining are forgetting that apps aren't applications Wait what
vanilla_nut 7y ago
I'm confused. What word do you think "app" is short for? What is the difference between "app" and "application"? Because to me they're both programs that run locally at my behest. Is an app somehow different from that?

JohnFen 7y ago

> Apps controlling updates isn't me having less control Yes, it totally is. > i always have the power to uninstall an app if it gets irritating about updates. So, if I have an app that works perfectly well, then it force-upgrades to a form that doesn't, my only choice is to stop using that app? I should be able to continue use the version that works for me. If I can't, then I don't have control over my own machine.

kkarakk 7y ago
Well yes, from a business perspective the app dev wants to take the app in a direction that doesn't align with your usecase. your recourses are 1.leave a bad review 2.uninstall the app That is literally the contract between you and the app dev btw, they aren't obligated to try and keep users if it doesn't make sense business wise and you aren't obligated to stick with them any longer. This is the dark side of the freemium model i guess but how does it make sense for an app dev to provide you free use of their idea by you using an older version of their app(if their business model doesn't align with that)?

koala_man 7y ago

> People complaining are forgetting that apps aren't applications Wait what

vanilla_nut 7y ago

I'm confused. What word do you think "app" is short for? What is the difference between "app" and "application"? Because to me they're both programs that run locally at my behest. Is an app somehow different from that?