> But that image falls apart the minute you try and use some (relatively) esoteric, but important language feature. No, it doesn't. The only people I hear clai

> But that image falls apart the minute you try and use some (relatively) esoteric, but important language feature. No, it doesn't. The only people I hear claim this are people that don't have decent experience with ORMs. Mature ORMs also act as data mappers when you need more fine-tuned control.