Hah, I wouldn't be shocked if we were in the same denomination. They have a bit of a cult problem (Waco comes to mind). I have social groups around hobbies and

Hah, I wouldn't be shocked if we were in the same denomination. They have a bit of a cult problem (Waco comes to mind). I have social groups around hobbies and activities, but the bonds are different, and without a shared belief (or, I often suspect, professed belief regardless of one's actual deep-down convictions) the nature of the relationships is different. I'd have sooner asked someone from church to watch my child in an emergency than someone from the homebrew club. Not that there's anything wrong with homebrew club members! It's just a different set of norms, expectations, etc. that come from being in each group. Of course, this can be stifling too. HBC members are a lot less likely to care if I'm gay, etc. (though honestly the church people, or at least those under 40, didn't seem to care either)