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Boeing appears to already be lawyering up their execs while throwing engineers under the bus. It’s going to be all about denying everything now.

x2f10 7y ago
Reminds you of VW...
- jake_the_third 7y ago
  Except no one is going to jail.
  - darkpuma 7y ago
    Maybe Ethiopia can trick a Boeing executive into visiting for vacation.
    - sjg007 7y ago
      Yes but they probably can't subpoena corporate data/emails to complete the necessary due diligence. They need the FBI to seize evidence, if that even exists.
      - TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
        Depends if Ethiopia believes the US will declare war against Ethiopia, or otherwise destabilise Ethiopia over one token Boing executive being detained fairly-indefinitely.
        sjg007 7y ago
        Lol... ok.
        TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
        I couldn’t keep a straight face while typing that. Geopolitics meets speculative fiction, amateur style.
        isostatic 7y ago
        Boeing CEO arrives in China Ethiopia puts in an extradition request to China Indonesia puts in a competing one CEO stays in China for a significant time Pressure on U.S. to cave in on sanctions. Trump refuses. I wonder if Lion Air will be determined to be the Arch Duke Ferdinand of WW3. Either way would be good to get some actual consequences for decision makers at the top of corporations.
        sjg007 7y ago
        If this is even possible they would do this to trade for the Huwei exec. Also Ethiopia gets a ton of US aid and military support so it wouldn’t be in their interest.
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__jal 7y ago
They also selling bonds, after a $20B stock buyback.
ip26 7y ago
Yes, it was probably another vast multi-decade inter-company conspiracy entirely orchestrated & executed in secret by THIS lone, junior engineer, hired last January. Amazing how systemic this kind of problem is.
- hef19898 7y ago
  The secret head of the conspiracy was the security guard working in the FAL. Or so I heard.
- kuschku 7y ago
  Except, the "lone engineer" VW blamed it on was the head of the diesel engine department, and by now even the former CEO is facing jailtime. I doubt Boeings management will get any punishment whatsoever.
djsumdog 7y ago
Think they'll stay out of jail or end up as American's Samsung?
throwaway55554 7y ago
There's no way the execs can deny they knew everything by the time the second plane crashed. It's damn if they do, damn if they don't. If they didn't know, why the hell not?! A plane crashed, why wouldn't they demand to know? That's negligence. If they did know, they had months to make a decision that would have saved the second plane and did nothing.
hef19898 7y ago
Why does that approach ring a bell? Ah, VW, that's why! Didn't work out too well for these Execs neither...

x2f10 7y ago

Reminds you of VW...

jake_the_third 7y ago
Except no one is going to jail.
- darkpuma 7y ago
  Maybe Ethiopia can trick a Boeing executive into visiting for vacation.
  - sjg007 7y ago
    Yes but they probably can't subpoena corporate data/emails to complete the necessary due diligence. They need the FBI to seize evidence, if that even exists.
    - TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
      Depends if Ethiopia believes the US will declare war against Ethiopia, or otherwise destabilise Ethiopia over one token Boing executive being detained fairly-indefinitely.
      - sjg007 7y ago
        Lol... ok.
        TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
        I couldn’t keep a straight face while typing that. Geopolitics meets speculative fiction, amateur style.
      - isostatic 7y ago
        Boeing CEO arrives in China Ethiopia puts in an extradition request to China Indonesia puts in a competing one CEO stays in China for a significant time Pressure on U.S. to cave in on sanctions. Trump refuses. I wonder if Lion Air will be determined to be the Arch Duke Ferdinand of WW3. Either way would be good to get some actual consequences for decision makers at the top of corporations.
        sjg007 7y ago
        If this is even possible they would do this to trade for the Huwei exec. Also Ethiopia gets a ton of US aid and military support so it wouldn’t be in their interest.
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__jal 7y ago

They also selling bonds, after a $20B stock buyback.

ip26 7y ago

Yes, it was probably another vast multi-decade inter-company conspiracy entirely orchestrated & executed in secret by THIS lone, junior engineer, hired last January. Amazing how systemic this kind of problem is.

hef19898 7y ago
The secret head of the conspiracy was the security guard working in the FAL. Or so I heard.
kuschku 7y ago
Except, the "lone engineer" VW blamed it on was the head of the diesel engine department, and by now even the former CEO is facing jailtime. I doubt Boeings management will get any punishment whatsoever.

djsumdog 7y ago

Think they'll stay out of jail or end up as American's Samsung?

throwaway55554 7y ago

There's no way the execs can deny they knew everything by the time the second plane crashed. It's damn if they do, damn if they don't. If they didn't know, why the hell not?! A plane crashed, why wouldn't they demand to know? That's negligence. If they did know, they had months to make a decision that would have saved the second plane and did nothing.

hef19898 7y ago

Why does that approach ring a bell? Ah, VW, that's why! Didn't work out too well for these Execs neither...