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"You’ve got to understand that our commitment to safety is as great as yours," Mr. Sinnett said in the meeting. Which is a blatant lie considering they opted t
by quickben 7y ago
"You’ve got to understand that our commitment to safety is as great as yours," Mr. Sinnett said in the meeting.
Which is a blatant lie considering they opted to DLC bunch of saftety features.
- PaulHoule 7y agoIt is astonishingly how out of touch Boeing leadership is in everything that they say about this crisis. They "own it" but they've "done nothing wrong."
- dadsfasf 7y agoOr, they know exactly what happened and have a personal phalanx of lawyers writing every statement for them.
- MegaButts 7y agoI don't think anyone thinks the executives are unaware of what happened. OP was commenting on the optics of how Boeing is handling the situation. What I wish the public was discussing is accountability for their negligence, and a solution to avoid similar process failures in the future (and likely jail time for those responsible).
- throwaway55554 7y agoOne could make the argument that the execs didn't know until after the first crash. But they definitely knew by the time the second one crashed. They had months to do something and did nothing.
- isostatic 7y agoThis is why people find Musk so refreshing.
- TheSpiceIsLife 7y agoFunny you should bring Musk up in this context. Some sort of autopilot self-crashing joke next.
- usrusr 7y agoThere are few ways of dealing with the situation worse than the one chosen by Boeing, but late night tweets about "unscheduled meteoric burial" would be one of them.
- village-idiot 7y agoCalling all the victims pedos would be pretty bad.
- inferiorhuman 7y agoWhich is a blatant lie considering they opted to DLC bunch of saftety features. If you're referring to the AOA indication — they didn't though. Boeing sold the MAX to the FAA and the airlines as being equipped with an "AoA disagree" annunciator on every single one. It turns out that the annunciator didn't work unless you also purchased the AoA gauges (it's unclear to me whether or not there are gauges on the primary flight display or if they're just part of the heads-up display). That little glitch was considered too minor by Boeing to notify the FAA or the airlines.
- sundvor 7y agoSo effectively it did turn it into a DLC, making GP's post 100% correct. I am past caring for or trusting their lame excuses at this point.
- mustacheemperor 7y agoIt’s really worse, since the aircraft was advertised as having the critical safety feature but in reality it required the DLC. So pilots could well have assumed there would be a warning.
- village-idiot 7y agoSouthwest actually called them out on this, and called Boeing a bunch of liars (through corporate speak).
- toast0 7y agoI don't think the AoA disagree indicator is particularly useful without an AoA gauge to at least see which side has a plausible number. On the 737MAX the indicated airspeed is calculated from the pitot tube reading and the AoA reading, so you'll already get an airspeed disagree warning. And the stickshaker on the side(s) with the broken sensor will also be going, if it uses the bad data to compute a stall. Another warning doesn't help Lion Air when they don't know the computer is adjusting the trim, even though autopilot was disabled because of airspeed disagree. Another warning doesn't help Ethiopia Airlines who don't have a procedure that gets the trim back under control. What Boeing needed to do was tell pilots about MCAS -- training, as well as an indicator that it activated; and provide a way to disable it while still providing pilot control of trim.