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Tesla won’t do this for free for out-of-warranty vehicles. Replacement cost of the entire board is unfortunately high at around $2,700. [1] - https://teslamot

by zaroth 7y ago

Tesla won’t do this for free for out-of-warranty vehicles. Replacement cost of the entire board is unfortunately high at around $2,700. [1] - https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/2700-to-fix-mcu-might-diy-but-how-much-to-reprogram-new-unit.94391/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/2700-to-fix-mcu-migh...

atonse 7y ago
Ok but why not fix the engineering flaw so so it isn't a $2,700 fix? This seems like doing a software fix, where you add buffering to your logging writes, would go a long way to fixing this.
wil421 7y ago
From your link: >I think we are on drivetrain #5 and it is now that one clunking intermittently, so maybe we take that one back in. We are on battery charger #2 and battery rebuild #3. We had most of the upgrades (wind noise on the door windows, etc). We had a left rear door handle start to go bad, took it to the shop and they fiddled with it and wanted to replace it, but afterwards no problems so we did not replace it. Drivetrain #5, charger #2, and battery #3. All under 125k miles. Wow I’m not so sure I’ll be buying a Tesla for my wife.
- zaroth 7y ago
  Yes, that is one anecdotal data point on a 2013 Model S. The 2012/2013 Model S drivetrain was notorious. Tesla warranted them for 8 years, and replaced them when they started to make noise. Here's an article with real statistical analysis saying 2/3rd were replaced by 60,000 miles. [1] This is back when Model S was basically a prototype. Time will tell with the Model 3 how reliable it is. A major selling point is the reduced complexity of an EV. The Tesla drivetrain and battery is now widely considered the world's best and most reliable. Tesla has claimed the Model 3 drivetrain can be re-used on the semi and that it's tested to 1,000,000 miles [2]. Take that with a grain of salt, but it's a world different from a 2013 Model S. [1] - https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1101153_two-thirds-of-earliest-tesla-drive-trains-to-fail-in-60000-miles-owner-data-suggests https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1101153_two-thirds-of-e... [2] - https://cleantechnica.com/2018/10/16/tesla-model-3-motor-gearbox-survive-1-million-miles-of-testing/ https://cleantechnica.com/2018/10/16/tesla-model-3-motor-gea...

by zaroth 7y ago

atonse 7y ago

Ok but why not fix the engineering flaw so so it isn't a $2,700 fix? This seems like doing a software fix, where you add buffering to your logging writes, would go a long way to fixing this.

wil421 7y ago

From your link: >I think we are on drivetrain #5 and it is now that one clunking intermittently, so maybe we take that one back in. We are on battery charger #2 and battery rebuild #3. We had most of the upgrades (wind noise on the door windows, etc). We had a left rear door handle start to go bad, took it to the shop and they fiddled with it and wanted to replace it, but afterwards no problems so we did not replace it. Drivetrain #5, charger #2, and battery #3. All under 125k miles. Wow I’m not so sure I’ll be buying a Tesla for my wife.

zaroth 7y ago
Yes, that is one anecdotal data point on a 2013 Model S. The 2012/2013 Model S drivetrain was notorious. Tesla warranted them for 8 years, and replaced them when they started to make noise. Here's an article with real statistical analysis saying 2/3rd were replaced by 60,000 miles. [1] This is back when Model S was basically a prototype. Time will tell with the Model 3 how reliable it is. A major selling point is the reduced complexity of an EV. The Tesla drivetrain and battery is now widely considered the world's best and most reliable. Tesla has claimed the Model 3 drivetrain can be re-used on the semi and that it's tested to 1,000,000 miles [2]. Take that with a grain of salt, but it's a world different from a 2013 Model S. [1] - https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1101153_two-thirds-of-earliest-tesla-drive-trains-to-fail-in-60000-miles-owner-data-suggests https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1101153_two-thirds-of-e... [2] - https://cleantechnica.com/2018/10/16/tesla-model-3-motor-gearbox-survive-1-million-miles-of-testing/ https://cleantechnica.com/2018/10/16/tesla-model-3-motor-gea...