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This is not common at all. What is common is to have such a clause apply to the period of employment but not after. Please feel comfortable telling your employ
by gms 7y ago
This is not common at all. What is common is to have such a clause apply to the period of employment but not after.
Please feel comfortable telling your employer to remove it (many people don't know that every contract is negotiable).
- robertcheng 7y agoEmployer doesn't want to change it saying it's common and everyone signed it.
- anigbrowl 7y agoThat's what people always say to get you to sign a shitty contract. Consider not taking the job because it sounds like the kind of company that defaults to fucking over the employees in any kind of difficult situation.
- caseyf7 7y agoThis is not standard. If you still want the job, try the following: print it, cross out the parts you don’t like, initial the changes, sign it and send back the scanned pdf. Most of the time HR doesn’t notice or care as long as they can check it off their list.
- tiredyam 7y agoDoes this work?
- NotPaidToPost 7y agoSometimes... If the person does not properly check the document or if they don't actually seriously care about that clause.
- was_boring 7y agoIf the counter party accepts it then it is the contract. You can do this with any contract, to include phone carriers and credit card companies.
- gms 7y agoI agree with the other comrade who commented. Avoid joining this employer if you can.
- Chazprime 7y agoI wouldn't sign it. This is not common at all, and while it's probably not enforceable, you don't want to chance it. It's interesting that they have told you that this is common in Silicon Valley because California has restrictions on requiring employees to assign rights to work created on their own time.
- muzani 7y agoI've signed contracts where they say it's common, and regret it every time. This is a massive red flag. It doesn't necessarily mean that they plan to screw you. But it certainly means they don't trust you, and it brings all the downsides of lack of trust. It also means that they're effectively filtering out talent, so your colleagues are unlikely to be very good.
- docker_up 7y agoDon't join. You will be making a huge mistake if you do.
- JamesBarney 7y agoThis clause is abusive unless they're writing you a seven figure check. And companied that are abusive in some ways tend to be abusive in other ways. If you have any other option I would take the other option. If you have no other options I would redline it and send it back. But whatever you do do not sign that clause.
- amluto 7y agoIt’s abusive, full stop. One could mess with the employer: offer an amendment where they own your work forever, but they pay you, forever, for your time, at whatever rate you set. :)
- steve_taylor 7y agoThe employer hasn’t accepted your terms because you haven’t walked away from the deal. Cut off all communication and look elsewhere. If they want you enough to withdraw those nasty clauses, they’ll contact you.