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They managed to destroy Iranian nuclear centrifuges using a very sophisticated attack. Read up on Stuxnet. Also, as an Israeli, I can 100% confirm that Israeli
by xenospn 7y ago
They managed to destroy Iranian nuclear centrifuges using a very sophisticated attack. Read up on Stuxnet.
Also, as an Israeli, I can 100% confirm that Israelis have absolutely no issues with crossing any kind of boundary. The fact that others think that such a thing as "boundaries" exist only serves as an advantage.
- Paraesthetic 7y agoEnough of your conspiracy theories
- serioussecurity 7y agoUnsure if joking. Look up stuxnet
- v64 7y agoRead the Wikipedia entry on Stuxnet [1] for more details. > Stuxnet targets SCADA systems and is believed to be responsible for causing substantial damage to Iran's nuclear program. Although neither country has openly admitted responsibility, the worm is believed to be a jointly built American/Israeli cyberweapon. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet
- seppin 7y ago> The fact that others think that such a thing as "boundaries" exist only serves as an advantage. Isn't this how villains in Marvel movies work?
- bookofjoe 7y ago"Russia has no boundaries."—V. Putin
- olivermarks 7y agoNot clear whether you consider this a good thing or a disgrace?
- draw_down 7y agoIt is clear, I think.
- TheAdamAndChe 7y agoWhy do you think their opinion should be expressed in their comment?
- xenospn 7y agoExactly.
- golergka 7y agoAs another israeli - certainly a good thing. For a nation in our position, in a deeply hostile region, where a major military defeat is certain to be genocide, doing everything possible for national defence is the only way possible to survive. Stuxnet in particular is something that I'm extremely proud of.
- timobet 7y agoYou say this as your country is invading and occupying land that doesn’t belong to them and murdering innocents to drive them out. Yeah, nice way to be proud.
- FigmentEngine 7y agovery hard to think of any country that has NOT done this. History shows that people and their countries do bad things.
- floe 7y agoNot a very hard-hitting analysis.
- simiones 7y agoTrue, but there is a difference between 'my ancestors have done this' and 'some of the taxes I'm paying are going into continuing the occupation; I've voted for the people who are ordering the air strikes'. There's fewer countries where that's true today.
- savethefuture 7y agoInteresting to hear about this lack of boundaries among Israelis, is this only for non-Israelis or do you/they cross each others boundaries? Is this a cultural thing, why do you think this the case?
- xenospn 7y agoIsraelis grow up with almost no notion of personal space. It’s just not a thing over there.
- ars 7y ago> Is this a cultural thing Israelis in general are very blunt and perfectly willing to question superiors and voice opinions and questions in situations where Americans never would. This includes the military where subordinates would question a superior in a way that would never fly in an American military (and probably others). Israelis on the street will voice opinions to strangers in a way that would be perceived as incredibly rude elsewhere, but is normal in Israel.
- krick 7y ago> Israelis on the street will voice opinions to strangers in a way that would be perceived as incredibly rude elsewhere, but is normal in Israel. What do you mean, for example?
- ars 7y agoIf they think you didn't dress your child properly they'll tell you. Or they'll hear you talking about something and give you advice on what to do without any embarrassment on that fact that they overheard you. You're fighting with your teen, in the US everyone would turn away and pretend not to hear, in Israel they'll just openly talk to you about their own teen and what they did, etc. and then half the bus would chime in. They're all really nice about it mind you, just trying to help. Israelis think of everyone as part of their personal family, even strangers are really distant relatives, is I guess a good way to put it.
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- ct520 7y agoI’m sure it was completely Israeli government involvement with the technologically advanced US playing no lead role. ...
- kevin_thibedeau 7y agoThe US provides the VC funding.
- ct520 7y agoStory checks out
- mirimir 7y agoFrom what I've seen, they're not at all unique. Maybe they're more honest about it, though. And given that they're surrounded by enemies, they must maintain that reputation. "I'm crazier than you are." has always been the US position re strategic nuclear weaponry.
- dane-pgp 7y ago> I can 100% confirm that Israelis have absolutely no issues with crossing any kind of boundary. Is this a subtle reference to the Israeli occupation of Palestine?
- googlemike 7y agoNot an occupation.
- xenospn 7y agoMy comment has nothing to do with Palestine.
- Udik 7y agoWell, it applies perfectly.
- WC3w6pXxgGd 7y ago"occupation"? Dude, c'mon.
- wyclif 7y agoI agree. Nobody should underestimate the Mossad: https://youtu.be/bJujIwtdk8w https://youtu.be/bJujIwtdk8w
- bigiain 7y agoFrom my favourite Usenix paper (https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1401_08-12_mickens.pdf https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1401_08-12_mickens.pdf): Basically, you’re either dealing with Mossad or not-Mossad. If your adversary is not-Mossad, then you’ll probably be fine if you pick a good password and don’t respond to emails from ChEaPestPAiNPi11s@virus-basket.biz.ru. If your adversary is the Mossad, YOU’RE GONNA DIE AND THERE’S NOTHING THAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. The Mossad is not intimidated by the fact that you employ https:// https://. If the Mossad wants your data, they’re going to use a drone to replace your cellphone with a piece of uranium that’s shaped like a cellphone, and when you die of tumors filled with tumors, they’re going to hold a press conference and say “It wasn’t us” as they wear t-shirts that say “IT WAS DEFINITELY US,” and then they’re going to buy all of your stuff at your estate sale so that they can directly look at the photos of your vacation instead of reading your insipid emails about them. And: Threat: The Mossad doing Mossad things with your email account Solution: Magical amulets? Fake your own death, move into a submarine? YOU’RE STILL GONNA BE MOSSAD’ED UPON (That's perhaps a little too light-hearted humor, considering the youtube link in the post I'm responding to...)
- WC3w6pXxgGd 7y agoDon't f*ck with Israel ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- tekknolagi 7y agoThat is an amazing article.
- bigiain 7y agoMikkens has a track record of writing stuff like that. It's worth hunting down and reading pretty much everything he's published.
- deytempo 7y agoHow do they differ from international terrorists then?
- mirimir 7y agoThey're a government that the US recognizes, and that's widely recognized by other governments that the US recognizes. That makes them legitimate. Terrorists by definition do not include legitimate governments. Anyone that doesn't agree is a "terrorist sympathizer". I don't necessarily agree, but that's just how it is.
- MagicPropmaker 7y agoBut no "government" was involved. This is a private company with international investors. Why isn't anyone mad at Apple who (falsely) advertises iOS as being "Secure By Design?"
- mirimir 7y ago> But no "government" was involved. Huh? This is Israel. And some of us are mad at Google and Apple for selling such insecure-by-design junk. By that I mean that apps are trusted more than (and can't fully be controlled by) device owners.
- toyg 7y agoI don’t think the trust policy has much to do with this. At the end of the day, an app exploit is an app exploit, and if an app can make calls, an app exploit will be able to make calls too. As long as the exploit is not allowed to burrow in the OS proper, it likely wouldn’t be any different on Linux or a BlackPhone.
- mirimir 7y agoI guess. But as I understand it, it's much harder to lock down apps on phones than on Linux. Users can't directly control networking, for example. And have zero insight or control over the cell modem. Even doing a real firewalled VPN on smartphones is virtually impossible. And I don't believe that one can do VirtualBox or KVM or whatever virtual hosting on them.
- discordance 7y agoThe Wired writeup on Stuxnet and the actors involved was an incredible read: https://www.wired.com/2014/11/countdown-to-zero-day-stuxnet/ https://www.wired.com/2014/11/countdown-to-zero-day-stuxnet/
- ionised 7y ago> Also, as an Israeli, I can 100% confirm that Israelis have absolutely no issues with crossing any kind of boundary. The fact that others think that such a thing as "boundaries" exist only serves as an advantage. Maybe as an Israeli you can see the hypocrisy in stating that there are no boundaries when, if it wasn't for a large part of the world deciding that in fact there ARE boundaries that should not be crossed, the Nuremberg trials would never have been held and Israel would not exist at all. But you go ahead and ignore your own history.