17 ms·

Short term testosterone would have little effect. However voice pitch is highly social and situational... it could still all be correlated. Someone who feels c

Short term testosterone would have little effect. However voice pitch is highly social and situational... it could still all be correlated. Someone who feels confident and feels like they "won" might subconsciously lower their voice in other interactions. To give another example, men tend to subconsciously lower their voices when talking to a woman they find attractive. There's a lot of other things going on than just the physiology.

alexandercrohde 7y ago
>> Short term testosterone would have little effect. Calling BS on that. Doubt you looked that up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4LbafuDmI4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4LbafuDmI4
- 55555 7y ago
  The effect the article refers to probably lasts hours to a day. The doses that FtM transgender are taking are higher than the normal male range, I'd estimate.
  - JimboOmega 7y ago
    Yeah, that's what I was referring to as short term - hours to a day. The linked YouTube video is a year. If a cis-man was to take a similar dose (and thus say, have double physiological T levels) they would certainly not notice their voice changing the next days. Most transgender medicine protocols target physiological levels of the hormones for the desired gender. It gets a bit more complicated with transwomen, because women have a tremendous range of variation during each cycle (never mind pregnancy), and because high estrogen levels can suppress testosterone on their own (so you don't need a separate medication to do that)... so there are different schools of thought as to the best way to do it. Targeting physiological levels is done mostly because that seems like a good idea a priori. One of the joys of being transgender is being part of an ongoing science experiment.
- JimboOmega 7y ago
  That video is a year, not (as the winner effect as I understood it) over a period of hours or days. I'm transgender myself, so, I actually do know about these things. The effects are one way, also. Once your voice goes down, even if the source of testosterone is removed, it tends to remain low (which is why many transwomen struggle with it)

alexandercrohde 7y ago

>> Short term testosterone would have little effect. Calling BS on that. Doubt you looked that up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4LbafuDmI4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4LbafuDmI4

55555 7y ago
The effect the article refers to probably lasts hours to a day. The doses that FtM transgender are taking are higher than the normal male range, I'd estimate.
- JimboOmega 7y ago
  Yeah, that's what I was referring to as short term - hours to a day. The linked YouTube video is a year. If a cis-man was to take a similar dose (and thus say, have double physiological T levels) they would certainly not notice their voice changing the next days. Most transgender medicine protocols target physiological levels of the hormones for the desired gender. It gets a bit more complicated with transwomen, because women have a tremendous range of variation during each cycle (never mind pregnancy), and because high estrogen levels can suppress testosterone on their own (so you don't need a separate medication to do that)... so there are different schools of thought as to the best way to do it. Targeting physiological levels is done mostly because that seems like a good idea a priori. One of the joys of being transgender is being part of an ongoing science experiment.
JimboOmega 7y ago
That video is a year, not (as the winner effect as I understood it) over a period of hours or days. I'm transgender myself, so, I actually do know about these things. The effects are one way, also. Once your voice goes down, even if the source of testosterone is removed, it tends to remain low (which is why many transwomen struggle with it)