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The jury is meant to be a random selection of members of society, but what alternative do you propose then; a jury of 'experts' in the field? that would seem fl

The jury is meant to be a random selection of members of society, but what alternative do you propose then; a jury of 'experts' in the field? that would seem flawed

ekianjo 7y ago
Juding the crediibility of each side does not mean you are anywhere closer to the truth. How about commissioning independent studies to answer the question?
- josefx 7y ago
  You are aware that Monsanto internal emails where made public that showed them colluding with various "independent" agencies? They shot themselves in the foot trying to make the issue go away instead of letting follow up studies clear Roundup of any cancer issues.
  - ekianjo 7y ago
    Then such studies were not independent per definition if Monsanto had any kind of access to them or who conducted them. If need be, mandate the government to monitor said studies and sue any form of intervention. There are many ways to make it more difficult for companies to put pressure: secrecy, duplication, decentralization, etc...
    - josefx 7y ago
      > mandate the government to monitor said studies The studies in those emails where kicked of by government agencies in response to the cancer claims. So that is exactly the scenario Monsanto already has interfered with and is prepared to interfere with again. > and sue any form of intervention. So we double down on lawsuits instead of just using one and util those new lawsuits are decided the old one spends decades in limbo? Right now the getting caught trying to manipulate studies was part of the original lawsuit and Monsanto/Bayer certainly did not enjoy the results. > secrecy, duplication, decentralization That seems to contradict the whole do "two" studies directly in response of the lawsuit. They are not secret, just two means you can manipulate one without any way to decide the correct study and having the same government agencies from the emails set them up just the kind of centralisation any company with regulators in their poket would love.

The jury is meant to be a random selection of members of society, but what alternative do you propose then; a jury of 'experts' in the field? that would seem flawed

ekianjo 7y ago

Juding the crediibility of each side does not mean you are anywhere closer to the truth. How about commissioning independent studies to answer the question?

josefx 7y ago
You are aware that Monsanto internal emails where made public that showed them colluding with various "independent" agencies? They shot themselves in the foot trying to make the issue go away instead of letting follow up studies clear Roundup of any cancer issues.
- ekianjo 7y ago
  Then such studies were not independent per definition if Monsanto had any kind of access to them or who conducted them. If need be, mandate the government to monitor said studies and sue any form of intervention. There are many ways to make it more difficult for companies to put pressure: secrecy, duplication, decentralization, etc...
  - josefx 7y ago
    > mandate the government to monitor said studies The studies in those emails where kicked of by government agencies in response to the cancer claims. So that is exactly the scenario Monsanto already has interfered with and is prepared to interfere with again. > and sue any form of intervention. So we double down on lawsuits instead of just using one and util those new lawsuits are decided the old one spends decades in limbo? Right now the getting caught trying to manipulate studies was part of the original lawsuit and Monsanto/Bayer certainly did not enjoy the results. > secrecy, duplication, decentralization That seems to contradict the whole do "two" studies directly in response of the lawsuit. They are not secret, just two means you can manipulate one without any way to decide the correct study and having the same government agencies from the emails set them up just the kind of centralisation any company with regulators in their poket would love.