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The parent article would likely be flagged less if it had a nicer title. A title like "Was Shakespeare a Woman?" likely sets off a lot of warnings on peoples' c

by ve55 7y ago

The parent article would likely be flagged less if it had a nicer title. A title like "Was Shakespeare a Woman?" likely sets off a lot of warnings on peoples' clickbait radars, causing people to flag the submission without even reading the article.

dang 7y ago
I agree completely, and normally we'd edit that out, but having read the article, I don't think it's that fair to do so. That's why I added the extra information after it—in the hope of cooling down the dreaded title fever. Edit: I give in.
- tom_ 7y ago
  The crazy thing is: it's got a question mark, in the fucking headline. There's a question mark in the fucking headline. Can people not just go "erm... no?" internally, when the question offends them? Truly we are lost. EDIT: Perhaps downvoters are assuming that while the headline actually reads "Was Shakespeare a woman?", it could instead read something else. And, yes, that is true. There is a huge number of possible combinations of letters that could occur in a headline, even if we ignore the meaningless ones. But I am restricting myself, perhaps unreasonably, to considering the headline that is actually there.
nikofeyn 7y ago
this is one thing i hate about hacker news' policy of editing (and thus editorializing) titles and links. for one, nobody knows what you two are discussing because no one knows what the original title was, what the original change was, and how those differ from the current title. it just confuses things. and more often i can't find articles i had read earlier in the day because the title and maybe even link has changed. and all that ignores the possibility of editorializing an article's title. to me, the original title, regardless of its provocativeness, is always preferred. if there is a need to update the link, then that should be in a comment and stickied if hacker news had that feature.
- dang 7y ago
  If we change the title we usually say "submitted title was XYZ" in a comment, like so: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22submitted%20title%20was%22&sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0 https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22submitted%20title%20was%22&.... If you don't see that, it almost always means the original title was just whatever shows in the article. That was the case with this one.

by ve55 7y ago

dang 7y ago

I agree completely, and normally we'd edit that out, but having read the article, I don't think it's that fair to do so. That's why I added the extra information after it—in the hope of cooling down the dreaded title fever. Edit: I give in.

tom_ 7y ago
The crazy thing is: it's got a question mark, in the fucking headline. There's a question mark in the fucking headline. Can people not just go "erm... no?" internally, when the question offends them? Truly we are lost. EDIT: Perhaps downvoters are assuming that while the headline actually reads "Was Shakespeare a woman?", it could instead read something else. And, yes, that is true. There is a huge number of possible combinations of letters that could occur in a headline, even if we ignore the meaningless ones. But I am restricting myself, perhaps unreasonably, to considering the headline that is actually there.

nikofeyn 7y ago

this is one thing i hate about hacker news' policy of editing (and thus editorializing) titles and links. for one, nobody knows what you two are discussing because no one knows what the original title was, what the original change was, and how those differ from the current title. it just confuses things. and more often i can't find articles i had read earlier in the day because the title and maybe even link has changed. and all that ignores the possibility of editorializing an article's title. to me, the original title, regardless of its provocativeness, is always preferred. if there is a need to update the link, then that should be in a comment and stickied if hacker news had that feature.

dang 7y ago
If we change the title we usually say "submitted title was XYZ" in a comment, like so: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22submitted%20title%20was%22&sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0 https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22submitted%20title%20was%22&.... If you don't see that, it almost always means the original title was just whatever shows in the article. That was the case with this one.