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Before you continue... Yahoo is part of Oath. [...] Select 'OK' to continue and allow Oath and our partners to use your data, or select 'Manage options' to view

Before you continue... Yahoo is part of Oath. [...] Select 'OK' to continue and allow Oath and our partners to use your data, or select 'Manage options' to view your choices. More Oath BS, where Manage Options leads you on a merry dance and does absolutely everything except allow you to manage any options. I'd love to see Oath sites banned from here.

georgeek 7y ago
Yes. I am OK with accepting tracking cookies on other sites but I just close the tabs if they I see anything related to Oath as a matter of principle.
silversconfused 7y ago
It would be nice if paywalled sites and sites with mandatory tracking were banned, yeah.
nicolaslem 7y ago
I always open these links in a private window, accept all the tracking, read the article and close the window.
- yomly 7y ago
  Piggybacking on this (as I do it too) how robust is this method?
  - lesdeuxmagots 7y ago
    Moderately. From a few years ago, I remember Yahoo was still able to triangulate pretty well on whichever device you were using, but had more difficulty across devices. Deduplication was a bit of an art at that point.
  - tormeh 7y ago
    You've just given them permission to fingerprint you. If they're good at what they do then the private window trick had no effect.
- levesque 7y ago
  Can't they still track you by IP address? (assuming you have a unique address)
lesdeuxmagots 7y ago
While it'd be nice to ban sites that exhibit negative behavior, Oath sites represent some of the largest news properties in the world. Yahoo News is the #1 news site in the US, HuffPo is also in the top 10. Together, they have more traffic than the next 3 or 4 largest providers combined. Further, several of their properties are specifically relevant to the HN community, including TechCrunch and Engadget. Not saying these are the highest quality sites out there, but they are the original source of reporting for many things discussed on HN. In fact, I see 3 different TC articles in the first 2 pages just right now.
dontbenebby 7y ago
One of the reasons I love my catchall email is catchall + password manager* throws a wrench in a lot of tracking. Even if you don't use Oauth, a commmon technique is to hash the email and compare the hashes. You can strip out periods or plus signs (ex: dontbenebby+hn@mydomain.com) but it's hard to track a person who gives a unique username, email, and password to every site. (Though I guess they could intuit I'm the only one who uses my custom domain, but that'd be hard to do at scale) *use PW manager because each site needs a unique PW

georgeek 7y ago

Yes. I am OK with accepting tracking cookies on other sites but I just close the tabs if they I see anything related to Oath as a matter of principle.

silversconfused 7y ago

It would be nice if paywalled sites and sites with mandatory tracking were banned, yeah.

nicolaslem 7y ago

I always open these links in a private window, accept all the tracking, read the article and close the window.

yomly 7y ago
Piggybacking on this (as I do it too) how robust is this method?
- lesdeuxmagots 7y ago
  Moderately. From a few years ago, I remember Yahoo was still able to triangulate pretty well on whichever device you were using, but had more difficulty across devices. Deduplication was a bit of an art at that point.
- tormeh 7y ago
  You've just given them permission to fingerprint you. If they're good at what they do then the private window trick had no effect.
levesque 7y ago
Can't they still track you by IP address? (assuming you have a unique address)

lesdeuxmagots 7y ago

While it'd be nice to ban sites that exhibit negative behavior, Oath sites represent some of the largest news properties in the world. Yahoo News is the #1 news site in the US, HuffPo is also in the top 10. Together, they have more traffic than the next 3 or 4 largest providers combined. Further, several of their properties are specifically relevant to the HN community, including TechCrunch and Engadget. Not saying these are the highest quality sites out there, but they are the original source of reporting for many things discussed on HN. In fact, I see 3 different TC articles in the first 2 pages just right now.

dontbenebby 7y ago

One of the reasons I love my catchall email is catchall + password manager* throws a wrench in a lot of tracking. Even if you don't use Oauth, a commmon technique is to hash the email and compare the hashes. You can strip out periods or plus signs (ex: dontbenebby+hn@mydomain.com) but it's hard to track a person who gives a unique username, email, and password to every site. (Though I guess they could intuit I'm the only one who uses my custom domain, but that'd be hard to do at scale) *use PW manager because each site needs a unique PW