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> The federal government of the United States claims this as well, for example see Gilmore v. Gonzales. That's not entirely correct: http://volokh.com/posts/11
by vonmoltke 7y ago
> The federal government of the United States claims this as well, for example see Gilmore v. Gonzales.
That's not entirely correct: http://volokh.com/posts/1134369043.shtml http://volokh.com/posts/1134369043.shtml
> Now, just to be clear, I have no idea whether the TSA's decision not to publish the text of its regulations is a smart one. I can understand why they don't publish the names on the No-Fly list, but it's not obvious to me why they can't publish the regulation or rule (or the relevant part) requiring an ID. Maybe this is a misguided law, or an appropriate law being implemented in a misguided way. I don't know; as I said, this isn't my area of expertise. Further, I think reasonable people can disagree on whether TSA's practices are a big deal. Some will find them deeply troublesome, and others won't.
> At the same time, I think it's important to recognize that this dispute appears to be significantly narrower than Kevin's post suggests. First, Congress isn't passing any secret laws; the undisclosed authority is a regulation, not a statute, and the TSA's requirement is widely known. Second, no one is being arrested; as I understand it, the issue is only who can be let on an airplane.
> Finally, the court isn't being called on to interpret a law it has never seen. DOJ filed a motion attempting file a version of its brief under seal. According to the government's claim at oral argument, the version of the brief filed under seal would have included the text of any regulations TSA follows. The Ninth Circuit rejected the motion without comment, however, and if one judge's comment at oral argument is any sign, it may be because the actual text of the regulation isn't essential to the case. As best I can tell, then, DOJ hasn't filed the undisclosed regulations with the Court because the Court rejected its motion to do so under seal, and the alternative, filing it in open court, would have defeated the purpose of having the text of the regulations unpublished.
- gumby 7y agoEugene Volokh is a lawyer and I am not, but I feel he is hairsplitting here. Regulations written to implement acts of congress are considered "regulatory law" and can be litigated in criminal, not civil court; you can be arrested for violating them etc. They swim, fly and quack like a duck.
- torstenvl 7y ago> Regulations written to implement acts of congress are considered "regulatory law"... Correct. > ...and can be litigated in criminal . . . court... Overreaching. This rarely happens. > ...litigated in . . . not civil court... They certainly can be litigated in civil court. They almost always are. > ...you can be arrested for violating them... Extreme overstatement. This is almost never the case.