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We provide a lot of value for free through our free service. Argo is an additional paid service that improves performance for customers that want to pay for tha

We provide a lot of value for free through our free service. Argo is an additional paid service that improves performance for customers that want to pay for that.

Avamander 7y ago
Your free service is nice - except that you can't use CF as a registrar for more than one domain without also having to pay for the proxying (even if there's no need). I'd gladly put all my eggs in one basket instead of having them spread out across five different registrars if that were fixed. Though maybe it's by-design?
- judge2020 7y ago
  Not sure I understand "pay for the proxying" - you should still be able to sign up your domains with the "free" plan as long as you use CF as your dns. If you don't want to proxy, your DNS records can be set to grey clouds so it just acts as a DNS service (but yes, you do have to be on Cloudflare's nameservers for now).
  - whitepoplar 7y ago
    Are there any plans for allowing customers to use Cloudflare Registrar without Cloudflare DNS?
    - ebrown_cf 7y ago
      At this time we don't have any plans to open up the Registrar to domains not using Cloudflare's DNS. If that changes in the future we'll be sure to announce it.
      - whitepoplar 7y ago
        Is there any benefit to having critical domains registered and DNSed at Cloudflare as opposed to using a separate registar w/ Cloudflare's DNS? The benefit of the latter is that one has optionality of DNS providers, and additionally one can use DNS providers that support zone export for secondary DNS.
        judge2020 7y ago
        One-click DNSSEC I guess.
  - Avamander 7y ago
    There's only one domain allowed for free in the DNS/Proxying plan, there's no way I've seen to add more than one domain without being forced to buy the advanced plan?
    - eastdakota 7y ago
      That's not true. You have always been able to add as many domains for free to a plan as you want. I think there may be some coded limit in the thousands, but our support team can even waive that if you ask nicely.
      - Avamander 7y ago
        Hmm, when Cloudflare registrar first came out I remember not being able to transfer just a domain name to CF without having to upgrade plans (or it was a dark pattern). Maybe I indeed have to recheck.
- ebrown_cf 7y ago
  Hi Avamander - I'm the product manager for Cloudflare's Registrar. There is no limit on the number of domains that can be on the Cloudflare registrar for free accounts. You do however need to add the website first (from your dashboard home page). Once a new site has been added you can transfer the domain into the Registrar. Feel free to reach out to our support team and they can help walk you through it.
  - Avamander 7y ago
    But when I have to add a new site I have to pay when I have more than one which basically makes it not-free to have more than one domain on a free account just for the registrar feature?
Justin_K 7y ago
I see this and am reminded of when you guys raised the price for your pro plan from 5 to 20. How long until you get great adoption, followed by a 4x price increase?
- JakeTheAndroid 7y ago
  We called that the 20-5-5 deal, and as someone that used Cloudflare and then went on to work there for a number of years, that is the only time I can remember Cf raising prices for something that had been fully released. From my experience, features are added to the Enterprise offerings, and then eventually brought down to lower plan levels. However, most things are based on usage now, not plan level and I expect that is a better path to monetization for CF compared to simply raising prices.
gist 7y ago
I noted in my other comment that your product manager for this service does not use cloudflare for his personal domain ( lalkaka.com ) but google domains.

We provide a lot of value for free through our free service. Argo is an additional paid service that improves performance for customers that want to pay for that.

Avamander 7y ago

Your free service is nice - except that you can't use CF as a registrar for more than one domain without also having to pay for the proxying (even if there's no need). I'd gladly put all my eggs in one basket instead of having them spread out across five different registrars if that were fixed. Though maybe it's by-design?

judge2020 7y ago
Not sure I understand "pay for the proxying" - you should still be able to sign up your domains with the "free" plan as long as you use CF as your dns. If you don't want to proxy, your DNS records can be set to grey clouds so it just acts as a DNS service (but yes, you do have to be on Cloudflare's nameservers for now).
- whitepoplar 7y ago
  Are there any plans for allowing customers to use Cloudflare Registrar without Cloudflare DNS?
  - ebrown_cf 7y ago
    At this time we don't have any plans to open up the Registrar to domains not using Cloudflare's DNS. If that changes in the future we'll be sure to announce it.
    - whitepoplar 7y ago
      Is there any benefit to having critical domains registered and DNSed at Cloudflare as opposed to using a separate registar w/ Cloudflare's DNS? The benefit of the latter is that one has optionality of DNS providers, and additionally one can use DNS providers that support zone export for secondary DNS.
      - judge2020 7y ago
        One-click DNSSEC I guess.
- Avamander 7y ago
  There's only one domain allowed for free in the DNS/Proxying plan, there's no way I've seen to add more than one domain without being forced to buy the advanced plan?
  - eastdakota 7y ago
    That's not true. You have always been able to add as many domains for free to a plan as you want. I think there may be some coded limit in the thousands, but our support team can even waive that if you ask nicely.
    - Avamander 7y ago
      Hmm, when Cloudflare registrar first came out I remember not being able to transfer just a domain name to CF without having to upgrade plans (or it was a dark pattern). Maybe I indeed have to recheck.
ebrown_cf 7y ago
Hi Avamander - I'm the product manager for Cloudflare's Registrar. There is no limit on the number of domains that can be on the Cloudflare registrar for free accounts. You do however need to add the website first (from your dashboard home page). Once a new site has been added you can transfer the domain into the Registrar. Feel free to reach out to our support team and they can help walk you through it.
- Avamander 7y ago
  But when I have to add a new site I have to pay when I have more than one which basically makes it not-free to have more than one domain on a free account just for the registrar feature?

Justin_K 7y ago

I see this and am reminded of when you guys raised the price for your pro plan from 5 to 20. How long until you get great adoption, followed by a 4x price increase?

JakeTheAndroid 7y ago
We called that the 20-5-5 deal, and as someone that used Cloudflare and then went on to work there for a number of years, that is the only time I can remember Cf raising prices for something that had been fully released. From my experience, features are added to the Enterprise offerings, and then eventually brought down to lower plan levels. However, most things are based on usage now, not plan level and I expect that is a better path to monetization for CF compared to simply raising prices.

gist 7y ago

I noted in my other comment that your product manager for this service does not use cloudflare for his personal domain ( lalkaka.com ) but google domains.