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^ this. Just because humans can operate a car with vision-only capabilities doesn't mean that we shouldn't use LIDAR. Every redundancy will be highly valued wh
by alehul 7y ago
^ this.
Just because humans can operate a car with vision-only capabilities doesn't mean that we shouldn't use LIDAR. Every redundancy will be highly valued when human lives are at stake, and we've seen many times with Tesla how cameras alone can be fooled.
- somethoughts 7y agoI think Elon is correct with an important caveat. If you are pursuing the Tesla self driving car business model which is selling a mid range luxury self driving car directly to the end consumer (and potentially operated for 4-6 hours a day as an autonomous taxi) then the cost of sensors is paramount. If you are pursuing other business models such as Uber and Lyft and Waymo, where the taxi will be purchased as a fleet, fleet managed by the operator and operated 24x7 for 5 years straight, then the cost of camera sensors + LIDAR suite will be full amortized over the 5 year life of the car and therefore be somewhat of a rounding error in the total investment return.
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- jjeaff 7y agoElon may be right, but he isn't saying that because he thinks he's right. He's saying cameras are the only way because it's the only thing equipped on Teslas right now that are supposedly "autonomous ready". To admit otherwise would be disastrous for stock price and future sales. And to include lidarr at their current sale price would not be possible.