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This has always been his attitude; Sweden refused to interview him in the embassy.

by computerfriend 7y ago

lostjohnny 7y ago
Fact: Assange ran from Swedish justice And that's for sure.
- coldtea 7y ago
  Fact: "Swedish justice" was more or less like Ecuador exchanging some multi billion IMF funding for giving him up -- the kind of made up stuff you stick to someone you want to shut up.
  - lostjohnny 7y ago
    That's not a fact t all, that's you personal assumption, at best. Assange ran and fought Swedish justice, there's proof of it, he did it, he said he did it.
    - coldtea 7y ago
      Yes, he run. He's no martyr. What I doubt is whether what he flew was "justice" and not the usual staged character assassination attempt, in a country caving in from diplomatic pressure (all too common to lesser states when pressured from superpowers).
      - lostjohnny 7y ago
        A doubt is legit, but everything he's done and said says a different story in my opinion. You don't say “Sweden is the Saudi Arabia of feminism” or “I fell into a hornets’ nest of revolutionary feminism” if there's nothing wrong with you. If there were doubts at first, now that both USA and Sweden are asking for extradiction, I'm even more convinced that Sweden wanted just to process him for what he allegedly did.
ChrisSD 7y ago
I wouldn't say "always". For example, he left Sweden the day before he was due to be interviewed with a view to arrest. It should also be noted that Assange was finally interviewed in 2016 by Ingrid Isgren.
- repolfx 7y ago
  That's not how I remember it at all. Assange left Sweden because the allegations had been dismissed by prosecutors. He didn't run from Swedish justice, quite the opposite, he hung around longer than necessary until he was told there was no further business to be done. It was only once he was in the UK that Sweden decided, for no obvious reason at all, that the allegations maybe weren't bogus after all.
  - ChrisSD 7y ago
    This was not true. https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/Misc/2011/5.html https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/Misc/2011/5.html > In cross-examination the Swedish lawyer confirmed that paragraph 13 of his proof of evidence is wrong... He then confirmed that on 22nd September 2010 at 16.46 he has a message from Ms Ny saying: “Hello – it is possible to have an interview Tuesday”. Next there was a message saying: “Thanks for letting me know. We will pursue Tuesday 28th at 1700”. He then accepted that there must have been a text from him. Assange left the country on the 27th.
    - belorn 7y ago
      Context: "The lawyer gave live evidence covering in some detail the attempts made to secure an interview with his client. On 15th September Ms Ny told him there were no “force measures” preventing Julian leaving the country, i.e. he was allowed to leave. ... He phoned his client to say he was free to leave the country to continue his work." "He conceded that it is possible that Ms Ny told him on the 21st that she wanted to interview his client... Then he was then cross-examined about his attempts to contact his client. To have the full flavour it may be necessary to consider the transcript in full. In summary the lawyer was unable to tell me what attempts he made to contact his client... He said “I don’t think I left a message warning him”" "In re-examination he confirmed that he did not know Mr Assange was leaving Sweden on 27th September and first learned he was abroad on 29th."

This has always been his attitude; Sweden refused to interview him in the embassy.

lostjohnny 7y ago

Fact: Assange ran from Swedish justice And that's for sure.

coldtea 7y ago
Fact: "Swedish justice" was more or less like Ecuador exchanging some multi billion IMF funding for giving him up -- the kind of made up stuff you stick to someone you want to shut up.
- lostjohnny 7y ago
  That's not a fact t all, that's you personal assumption, at best. Assange ran and fought Swedish justice, there's proof of it, he did it, he said he did it.
  - coldtea 7y ago
    Yes, he run. He's no martyr. What I doubt is whether what he flew was "justice" and not the usual staged character assassination attempt, in a country caving in from diplomatic pressure (all too common to lesser states when pressured from superpowers).
    - lostjohnny 7y ago
      A doubt is legit, but everything he's done and said says a different story in my opinion. You don't say “Sweden is the Saudi Arabia of feminism” or “I fell into a hornets’ nest of revolutionary feminism” if there's nothing wrong with you. If there were doubts at first, now that both USA and Sweden are asking for extradiction, I'm even more convinced that Sweden wanted just to process him for what he allegedly did.

ChrisSD 7y ago

I wouldn't say "always". For example, he left Sweden the day before he was due to be interviewed with a view to arrest. It should also be noted that Assange was finally interviewed in 2016 by Ingrid Isgren.

repolfx 7y ago
That's not how I remember it at all. Assange left Sweden because the allegations had been dismissed by prosecutors. He didn't run from Swedish justice, quite the opposite, he hung around longer than necessary until he was told there was no further business to be done. It was only once he was in the UK that Sweden decided, for no obvious reason at all, that the allegations maybe weren't bogus after all.
- ChrisSD 7y ago
  This was not true. https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/Misc/2011/5.html https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/Misc/2011/5.html > In cross-examination the Swedish lawyer confirmed that paragraph 13 of his proof of evidence is wrong... He then confirmed that on 22nd September 2010 at 16.46 he has a message from Ms Ny saying: “Hello – it is possible to have an interview Tuesday”. Next there was a message saying: “Thanks for letting me know. We will pursue Tuesday 28th at 1700”. He then accepted that there must have been a text from him. Assange left the country on the 27th.
  - belorn 7y ago
    Context: "The lawyer gave live evidence covering in some detail the attempts made to secure an interview with his client. On 15th September Ms Ny told him there were no “force measures” preventing Julian leaving the country, i.e. he was allowed to leave. ... He phoned his client to say he was free to leave the country to continue his work." "He conceded that it is possible that Ms Ny told him on the 21st that she wanted to interview his client... Then he was then cross-examined about his attempts to contact his client. To have the full flavour it may be necessary to consider the transcript in full. In summary the lawyer was unable to tell me what attempts he made to contact his client... He said “I don’t think I left a message warning him”" "In re-examination he confirmed that he did not know Mr Assange was leaving Sweden on 27th September and first learned he was abroad on 29th."