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Maybe he just raped a girl. Case closed. No huge conspiracies. Question is, if he gets freed, what will happen then?

akerro 7y ago
I read she never opened a case against him. It was just police officer who did it in her name? I think it's too much misinformation and lies to tell what really happened.
- ChrisSD 7y ago
  The facts are she went to the police station to report it. Why would she do that if she didn't want the police to do anything? When the first prosecutor decided not to proceed with the case, her lawyer asked for this decision to be reviewed. Why would her lawyer do this if she didn't want the case resumed?
  - cotelletta 7y ago
    Because her and another woman wanted to compel him to take an STD test. This is not a big secret, the facts of the case are there for everyone to find.
- FrankenTan 7y ago
  In Sweden, prosecutors have duty to prosecute. "In the case of most crimes, the prosecutor has what is known as an absolute duty to prosecute. This means that the prosecutor is obliged to initiate a prosecution if he or she considers there to be sufficient evidence to prove that a crime has been committed and that a certain person has committed it. This in turn means that not even the victim of the offence can decide what is to happen in connection with the investigations. In other words, there is nothing on the lines of “withdrawing the charges”. The prosecutor must make sure that the crime is investigated, irrespective of the feelings or wishes of those involved. The reason for this is that society has an interest in ensuring that the perpetrators of the crime are also tried for it. Exceptions are made for certain offences where it may be felt that the interests of the general public in instigating legal proceedings are not strong enough. Examples of such offences are defamation, breach of domiciliary peace and crimes of unlawful appropriation, or stealing, within the family (i.e. theft etc.)." https://www.aklagare.se/en/the-legal-process/the-role-of-the-prosecutor/decision-to-prosecute/duty-to-prosecute/ https://www.aklagare.se/en/the-legal-process/the-role-of-the...
Torwald 7y ago
> Maybe he just raped a girl. If you seriously believe that, than you are either very naive or lying to yourself. It is obvious that influential people who feel threatened by Wikileaks fabricated the whole incident. How else could it be? Think seriously about it. If you manage to convince yourself that there is a real chance of rape happened, then tell me how you did it. Maybe you can convince me too.
- moorhosj 7y ago
  So, your assumptions are “obvious” and someone else assumptions are just a result of them not thinking seriously? Maybe it is you who should re-think their position?
  - Torwald 7y ago
    > Maybe it is you who should re-think their position? Maybe. That's what I offered already. So, can you convince me?
    - irb 7y ago
      I don't think it's anyone else's responsibility to convince you of anything. If you want to take part in this conversation, how about you explain the reasons for your position instead?
    - thecatspaw 7y ago
      Sure. Beeing in a very public position does not mean you are incapable of raping people, see Weinstein. Maybe Assange is innocent. Maybe the allegations are true. We just dont know right now, but neither of these options is obvious right now
alkonaut 7y ago
Most likely he’ll give an interview after which the prosecutor will decide to press no charges. It’s a rather weak case that is also quite old at this point. After that I’d try to disappear in Sweden if I were Assange.

I read she never opened a case against him. It was just police officer who did it in her name? I think it's too much misinformation and lies to tell what really happened.

ChrisSD 7y ago
The facts are she went to the police station to report it. Why would she do that if she didn't want the police to do anything? When the first prosecutor decided not to proceed with the case, her lawyer asked for this decision to be reviewed. Why would her lawyer do this if she didn't want the case resumed?
- cotelletta 7y ago
  Because her and another woman wanted to compel him to take an STD test. This is not a big secret, the facts of the case are there for everyone to find.
FrankenTan 7y ago
In Sweden, prosecutors have duty to prosecute. "In the case of most crimes, the prosecutor has what is known as an absolute duty to prosecute. This means that the prosecutor is obliged to initiate a prosecution if he or she considers there to be sufficient evidence to prove that a crime has been committed and that a certain person has committed it. This in turn means that not even the victim of the offence can decide what is to happen in connection with the investigations. In other words, there is nothing on the lines of “withdrawing the charges”. The prosecutor must make sure that the crime is investigated, irrespective of the feelings or wishes of those involved. The reason for this is that society has an interest in ensuring that the perpetrators of the crime are also tried for it. Exceptions are made for certain offences where it may be felt that the interests of the general public in instigating legal proceedings are not strong enough. Examples of such offences are defamation, breach of domiciliary peace and crimes of unlawful appropriation, or stealing, within the family (i.e. theft etc.)." https://www.aklagare.se/en/the-legal-process/the-role-of-the-prosecutor/decision-to-prosecute/duty-to-prosecute/ https://www.aklagare.se/en/the-legal-process/the-role-of-the...

Torwald 7y ago

> Maybe he just raped a girl. If you seriously believe that, than you are either very naive or lying to yourself. It is obvious that influential people who feel threatened by Wikileaks fabricated the whole incident. How else could it be? Think seriously about it. If you manage to convince yourself that there is a real chance of rape happened, then tell me how you did it. Maybe you can convince me too.

moorhosj 7y ago
So, your assumptions are “obvious” and someone else assumptions are just a result of them not thinking seriously? Maybe it is you who should re-think their position?
- Torwald 7y ago
  > Maybe it is you who should re-think their position? Maybe. That's what I offered already. So, can you convince me?
  - irb 7y ago
    I don't think it's anyone else's responsibility to convince you of anything. If you want to take part in this conversation, how about you explain the reasons for your position instead?
  - thecatspaw 7y ago
    Sure. Beeing in a very public position does not mean you are incapable of raping people, see Weinstein. Maybe Assange is innocent. Maybe the allegations are true. We just dont know right now, but neither of these options is obvious right now

alkonaut 7y ago

Most likely he’ll give an interview after which the prosecutor will decide to press no charges. It’s a rather weak case that is also quite old at this point. After that I’d try to disappear in Sweden if I were Assange.