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16-year old kid who rarely ventures outside his parent's basement gets lifted off his seat by cops who threaten him with a lifetime in prison and he confesses?

by tybris 16y ago

16-year old kid who rarely ventures outside his parent's basement gets lifted off his seat by cops who threaten him with a lifetime in prison and he confesses? Preposterous.

rhizome 16y ago
Are you sure you aren't reading between the lines a little bit? I think that given the context it's smart to be a little skeptical of stories like this.
- jacquesm 16y ago
  This is not Fox News or Bild we're talking about here, and given the context it is smart to know how to separate facts from fiction regardless of whether or not those facts fit in to your preferred worldview. The dry facts: (1) some 16 year old kid was arrested (2) he was arrested in relation to his role in the attacks o MasterCard and PayPal (3) He's been interrogated (4) he confessed to at least being involved (5) he's part of a group (most likely Anon, but that's interpretation on my side) (6) they seem to have other suspects (7) they are aware of two classes of suspects, 'organizers' and 'mules' and are (for now I would assume) focusing the investigative effort on the organizers, which suggests the kid was part of those that organized the attack and not just someone that downloaded a script or bot tool. (8) On Friday (tomorrow) he will be arraigned, presumably we'll learn more then as well as whether or not he will be held longer
  - rhizome 16y ago
    My point is that the arrest was not exactly due to LOIC usage, because the kid apparently got tagged by virtue of being one of the IRC ops for a/the payback channel. IRC is much easier to investigate than LOIC packets. This is what I meant by it being a corner case. So, the story as I've been able to understand it is that the law tagged him via his association with the IRC channel, then under questioning revealed that he used LOIC as well. This isn't the same thing as your average payback participant having their identity revealed merely by their participation. I simply don't believe (yet, I haven't closed the door on this) that this arrest signals any risk to Anonymous.

by tybris 16y ago

16-year old kid who rarely ventures outside his parent's basement gets lifted off his seat by cops who threaten him with a lifetime in prison and he confesses? Preposterous.

rhizome 16y ago

Are you sure you aren't reading between the lines a little bit? I think that given the context it's smart to be a little skeptical of stories like this.

jacquesm 16y ago
This is not Fox News or Bild we're talking about here, and given the context it is smart to know how to separate facts from fiction regardless of whether or not those facts fit in to your preferred worldview. The dry facts: (1) some 16 year old kid was arrested (2) he was arrested in relation to his role in the attacks o MasterCard and PayPal (3) He's been interrogated (4) he confessed to at least being involved (5) he's part of a group (most likely Anon, but that's interpretation on my side) (6) they seem to have other suspects (7) they are aware of two classes of suspects, 'organizers' and 'mules' and are (for now I would assume) focusing the investigative effort on the organizers, which suggests the kid was part of those that organized the attack and not just someone that downloaded a script or bot tool. (8) On Friday (tomorrow) he will be arraigned, presumably we'll learn more then as well as whether or not he will be held longer
- rhizome 16y ago
  My point is that the arrest was not exactly due to LOIC usage, because the kid apparently got tagged by virtue of being one of the IRC ops for a/the payback channel. IRC is much easier to investigate than LOIC packets. This is what I meant by it being a corner case. So, the story as I've been able to understand it is that the law tagged him via his association with the IRC channel, then under questioning revealed that he used LOIC as well. This isn't the same thing as your average payback participant having their identity revealed merely by their participation. I simply don't believe (yet, I haven't closed the door on this) that this arrest signals any risk to Anonymous.