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The line about the game of chicken is pretty accurate a description of one of the major sources of tension in a lived-in relationship. What I've always found f
by grovulent 16y ago
The line about the game of chicken is pretty accurate a description of one of the major sources of tension in a lived-in relationship.
What I've always found frustrating is that I've never been able to get a female partner to recognise in conjunction the following key points:
1) She has different expectations of what needs to be done around the house.
2) That this fact doesn't entitle her to conclude automatically that she is doing MORE of the work around the house. Because what 'needs' to be done first NEEDS to be negotiated.
Similarly, this author doesn't seem to express any sort of awareness that this negotiation needs to take place. The thought process as it seems to consciously render in their brains is:
1) Outcome X is a need of the house.
2) Division of labour in a marriage for 'needs of the house' must be divided 50/50
3) Current split is 70/30 in favour of the woman (i.e. she is doing more work).
4) Therefore, work must be divided more equitably - with the man doing more work.
This is perfectly logical. Men generally accept the argument is valid, and that premises 2 and 3 are true. They just often dispute the truth of premise 1. But no matter how hard I've tried - I've never even been able to get acknowledgement that 1) could be false, let alone a change in stance about whether or not outcome X is actually needed. Hence it never even gets to the stage of negotiation.
Given that they won't acknowledge that 1) needs to be up for negotiation. I've only ever really been able to conclude that what is REALLY passing through a woman's brain (as opposed to how it appears to them) - goes like this:
1) I want outcome X
2) I would like to expend less effort in obtaining what I want, so that I can have more of what I want.
3) Division of labour in a marriage for 'wants of the woman' must be divided 50/50 percent
4) Current split is 70/30 in favour of the woman (i.e. she is doing more work).
5) Therefore, work must be divided less equitably - with the man doing more work.
Yes - I'm very.... very single.
- alttab 16y agoWhen you find a woman that thinks this tirade is cute - grab and hold.
- grovulent 16y agoWell - actually - here's another one of life's oddities. When you first hook up with a girl, that kind of feisty moxy is exactly what attracts them to you. Men who get laid, the world over, will attest to the truth that in the initial stage of attraction, a man should always signal an attitude of rebelliousness against feminine expectations and norms. So in actual fact - most (young) women WILL find it sorta cute (with perhaps some modifications needed). When they move in with you, however, it quickly becomes less cute. And therein lies the rub.
- niels_olson 16y agoWe just had our 10th anniversary. You're missing the point that in 13 years this conversation has been framed so many ways she's forgotten more than you'll think of in the next 5 years.
- perucoder 16y agoWholeheartedly agree!!! And this whole 50/50 business seems to get taken way too far. Am I only supposed to wash half the dishes in the sink? What about when the roof needs to be reshingled? Somehow I never hear a peep about equality when it's 90+ degrees, middle of August and I'm climbing my ass up on to the roof.