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Vietnam Doesn’t Trust Huawei
- netwanderer3 7y agoViettel, the military owned mobile network in Vietnam, has chosen Ericsson as their main partner to build 5G network. It is expected to launch next year and potentially with unlimited data as well.
- gsich 7y agoWell, Vietnam uses metric anyway.
- OrgNet 7y agoeveryone does, even some parts (fields) of the US
- HoochieKoo 7y agoU.S., Burma and Liberia the only three countries NOT using metric.
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- marktangotango 7y agoMy understanding was South Korea has a policy of only allowing South Korean owned and manufactured network equipment in bank, financial, and government networks. Does anyone have any info on that?
- matt4077 7y agoYou should maybe try to find and/or include a reference for such a claim. Because it sounds unlikely, borderline impossible. To actually work, it would have to include all hardware and most software on any devices that have access. So no Windows on any government or bank PCs in all of SK? As it is, this comment, even if framed as a question, may well leave some unfounded hypothetical in peoples’ minds, which of course some will repeat more assertively.
- marktangotango 7y agoI think most people would read “network equipment” as routers, switches, and firewalls. One wonders at the intellect and motive of a person who claims PCs are network equipment. On the network certainly.
- twblalock 7y agoAn important part of the article: "The consensus in Hanoi is that Beijing is the nation’s primary external security threat. China has a long history of imperialism in Vietnam and invaded the country as recently as 1979 in support of the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia, resulting in a brief war in which roughly 70,000 people died. Although relations have improved since the 1990s, Vietnam remains highly wary of its much larger neighbor despite sharing communist rule." There is a lot of distrust of China throughout Asia. Huawei is having an easier time selling to Western countries than to China's neighbors.
- cmsparks 7y agoThere’s a lot of distrust from many southeast Asian nations due to the conflicting territory claims in the South China Sea as well.
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- zwaps 7y agoThis makes complete sense to me. The more China opposes the West (as some say), or acts imperialistically/steals tech etc. (as other say), the more Vietnam will become a viable trade partner for the West. It is besides the point that Vietnam also has large ideological differences that may materialize later. For now, these differences are inconsequential to doing business. The risk of doing business in Vietnam, in terms of IP theft and getting thrown out of the market, is a fraction of that in China. China, however, needs and wants the West's business. If Vietnam gets cozy with the West, to the detriment of China, Huawei - which is essentially a state (or more correct, party) company, will act. If anyone can absolutely not trust Huawei, it is other South-East Asian countries!
- anthony_doan 7y ago> The more China opposes the West (as some say), or acts imperialistically/steals tech etc. (as other say), the more Vietnam will become a viable trade partner for the West. It's just one aspect. China have been aggressive between the borders and have been trying to assert dominance for the Spratly islands. Another aspect is that China is shifting to a middle class so their low labor can't be forever, given other countries having much lower labor. I believe this is a feature of globalization. > If Vietnam gets cozy with the West, to the detriment of China, Huawei - which is essentially a state (or more correct, party) company, will act. They've already been cozy. China's aggressive claim to the China sea around there have forced many countries to cozy up with USA. Vietnam had a joint military drill with USA a while back. The only one that buck this trend is Philippines because they elected a guy who's crazy and into purging people.
- anfilt 7y agoThis shows how insane the claims are your talking about. https://i.postimg.cc/3NLwVPGX/china-s-insane-claims.png https://i.postimg.cc/3NLwVPGX/china-s-insane-claims.png
- anfilt 7y agoI understand why they would consider china their primary external security threat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_conflicts,_1979%E2%80%931991 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_conflicts,_197... Also let's not forget how pushy china has been in West Philippine Sea ("South China sea") east of Vietnam.
- abrowne 7y agoIt's longer than that, too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_domination_of_Vietnam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_domination_of_Vietnam The Chinese domination of Vietnam began in 111 BC, and is usually considered to have ended in 938 AD. A fourth, relatively brief, 20-year punitive invasion by the Ming dynasty, 400 years later, is usually excluded by historians in discussion of the main, almost continuous, period of Chinese colonization from 111 BC to 938 AD, as is the brief occupation of northern Vietnam by Chinese forces at the end of the Second World War.
- anfilt 7y agoAlso again look how insane china's claims are east of Vietnam. https://i.postimg.cc/3NLwVPGX/china-s-insane-claims.png https://i.postimg.cc/3NLwVPGX/china-s-insane-claims.png
- equalunique 7y agoBasically China is claiming the water that lies between two totally independent countries.
- rqs 7y agoYou mean, everybody who fought with Vietnam will be an external security threat? Then that's a lots of people on this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Vietnam#Modern_Vietnam_(1945%E2%80%93present) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Vietnam... Not I supporting Huawei (I think they better off died), but I don't think that War argument is the full picture.
- duxup 7y agoThis would seem to be a question of history first more than anything else. Vietnam has a long history of conflict with China and Chinese claims regarding the south china sea claim a great deal of area off the coat of Vietnam.