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Had a really hard time watching that trailer. Makes me question if the developers have researched what level of gore their audience finds acceptable in an age o

Had a really hard time watching that trailer. Makes me question if the developers have researched what level of gore their audience finds acceptable in an age of near photo realistic gaming.

golemotron 7y ago
Sales figures would indicate that, wouldn't they?
- unicornporn 7y ago
  True I guess. "Acceptable" was probably the wrong word. "Most enjoyable"? Still, do gamers think it's a great game while coping (and would have preferred less gore) or is more gore always preferred?
  - blattimwind 7y ago
    There's a huge difference between silly gore (e.g. DOOM) and disgusting/frightening gore (e.g. Resident Evil). I, for myself, certainly know that I finished RE5 despite its gore, not because of it, and I realize I will never play certain games (e.g. Alien Isolation); if I could go back I'd probably stop myself from watching the Alien movies and a bunch of other gore / psycho movies, too.
  - kipchak 7y ago
    Mortal Kobat's niche is largely people who really like the over the top gore for whatever reason, in the same way some people are horror movie gore fans. MK is also one of the few Western fighting games left which have a different play style to other fighters like Street Fighter, UNIST, or Tekken which probably makes up the most of the playerbase that might fall in the less gore category.
  - Narishma 7y ago
    Mortal Kombat's whole selling point is the gore and over-the-top violence. It's not known for it's stellar gameplay.
matz1 7y ago
Different strokes for different folks. There are plenty of people who find photo realistic gore entertaining.
- jjeaff 7y ago
  But as a society, I think there are lines to be drawn on what is a socially acceptable form of entertainment. Not saying the line should be drawn here necessarily, but I don't think chalking it up to everyone being different is acceptable.
  - malvosenior 7y ago
    Couldn't disagree more. We should stop worrying about what other people are doing for entertainment. Totally fine if you don't want to play or watch violent media but judging others and calling their enjoyment unacceptable is a pretty far departure from an open and free society.
    - kderbyma 7y ago
      I disagree with your dismissal as some form of 'free society' bs. Free society is all well and good but we have reasonable laws for a reason. There are some people who find torture amusing and end up serial killers....no offence but their opinion is not equal to every one else's and should be removed from society imo. Just because someone is entertained doesn't not make it acceptable. That's a farce
      - malvosenior 7y ago
        So are you suggesting laws that censor violent content?
      - pkroll 7y ago
        "There are some people who find torture amusing and end up serial killers..." You've described maybe what, 100 people in the country at this moment? Vs. the 11 million sales of the previous version of Mortal Kombat, and will likely buy this one. So sure, 100 folks remove from the equation, but you do NOT get to take the 11 million who found it entertaining out of the equation.
johnchristopher 7y ago
To each its own, maybe. But I didn't find the trailer that gory and certainly not realistic. MK has always looked like a silly US fighting game to me. There are hints of really gruesome things regarding joint dislocation in the trailer but it doesn't come anywhere to the discomfort I have experienced watching certain movies. I am not talking about over the top, blood everywhere, fake and grossly exaggerated gore movies. Think of scenes involving cutting tendons in one, eye gouging and the eye hanging in another one... That kind of things, which were only glimpsed at in those movies, upping the discomfort level way higher than a 2 minutes brawl between an electric god and a razor man throwing each other 12 feet up in the air. edit: Now, I am not saying setting up and producing these scenes has no impact on the people working on it for months but spectators experience something different: the end result, not the process.
skocznymroczny 7y ago
What is photorealistic changes every decade. Doom used to be photorealistic, then Unreal, then Crysis, now modern games are photorealistic. And yet they don't look realistic at all.
- ben_w 7y ago
  I was about to suggest Myst 2 onwards as exceptions, but then I looked at some gameplay videos on YouTube and even those don’t look very realistic any more.
  - rocqua 7y ago
    Crysis remains one of the best imho.
- pvg 7y ago
  It doesn't 'change every decade' since it's a style rather than just a function of technology. Doom was never 'photorealistic'. The original 90s MK is, Smash Bros Ultimate isn't.
cm2012 7y ago
Your comment made me watch the trailer, though I don't like MK games. The gore is so unrealistic (there's like, 1/50th that amount of blood in the whole human body!) that it didn't bother me. The closest thing it reminds me of is Kill Bill.
zorked 7y ago
Meh. I watched the trailer, it seemed desperate for attention. When the first two or three MK games came out they were indeed a big part of a culture of its time, being both controversial and a kind of (trashy, commercial) statement against the puritanical/hypocritical mores of the time. The limits of videogames as media were being tested. That side of the controversy won. Nowadays? Meh. They dialed up the stupid gore in an attempt to remain relevant. Nobody cares. I only hear about Mortal Kombat once in a while when someone writes some piece about its violence when a new game comes out. A couple of weeks later they are selling it at some budget price. Nobody cares anymore. Never heard from anyone I know actually playing the new games. Who knows what were the innovations in Mortal Kombat 8? Me neither.

Had a really hard time watching that trailer. Makes me question if the developers have researched what level of gore their audience finds acceptable in an age of near photo realistic gaming.

golemotron 7y ago

Sales figures would indicate that, wouldn't they?

unicornporn 7y ago
True I guess. "Acceptable" was probably the wrong word. "Most enjoyable"? Still, do gamers think it's a great game while coping (and would have preferred less gore) or is more gore always preferred?
- blattimwind 7y ago
  There's a huge difference between silly gore (e.g. DOOM) and disgusting/frightening gore (e.g. Resident Evil). I, for myself, certainly know that I finished RE5 despite its gore, not because of it, and I realize I will never play certain games (e.g. Alien Isolation); if I could go back I'd probably stop myself from watching the Alien movies and a bunch of other gore / psycho movies, too.
- kipchak 7y ago
  Mortal Kobat's niche is largely people who really like the over the top gore for whatever reason, in the same way some people are horror movie gore fans. MK is also one of the few Western fighting games left which have a different play style to other fighters like Street Fighter, UNIST, or Tekken which probably makes up the most of the playerbase that might fall in the less gore category.
- Narishma 7y ago
  Mortal Kombat's whole selling point is the gore and over-the-top violence. It's not known for it's stellar gameplay.

matz1 7y ago

Different strokes for different folks. There are plenty of people who find photo realistic gore entertaining.

jjeaff 7y ago
But as a society, I think there are lines to be drawn on what is a socially acceptable form of entertainment. Not saying the line should be drawn here necessarily, but I don't think chalking it up to everyone being different is acceptable.
- malvosenior 7y ago
  Couldn't disagree more. We should stop worrying about what other people are doing for entertainment. Totally fine if you don't want to play or watch violent media but judging others and calling their enjoyment unacceptable is a pretty far departure from an open and free society.
  - kderbyma 7y ago
    I disagree with your dismissal as some form of 'free society' bs. Free society is all well and good but we have reasonable laws for a reason. There are some people who find torture amusing and end up serial killers....no offence but their opinion is not equal to every one else's and should be removed from society imo. Just because someone is entertained doesn't not make it acceptable. That's a farce
    - malvosenior 7y ago
      So are you suggesting laws that censor violent content?
    - pkroll 7y ago
      "There are some people who find torture amusing and end up serial killers..." You've described maybe what, 100 people in the country at this moment? Vs. the 11 million sales of the previous version of Mortal Kombat, and will likely buy this one. So sure, 100 folks remove from the equation, but you do NOT get to take the 11 million who found it entertaining out of the equation.

johnchristopher 7y ago

To each its own, maybe. But I didn't find the trailer that gory and certainly not realistic. MK has always looked like a silly US fighting game to me. There are hints of really gruesome things regarding joint dislocation in the trailer but it doesn't come anywhere to the discomfort I have experienced watching certain movies. I am not talking about over the top, blood everywhere, fake and grossly exaggerated gore movies. Think of scenes involving cutting tendons in one, eye gouging and the eye hanging in another one... That kind of things, which were only glimpsed at in those movies, upping the discomfort level way higher than a 2 minutes brawl between an electric god and a razor man throwing each other 12 feet up in the air. edit: Now, I am not saying setting up and producing these scenes has no impact on the people working on it for months but spectators experience something different: the end result, not the process.

skocznymroczny 7y ago

What is photorealistic changes every decade. Doom used to be photorealistic, then Unreal, then Crysis, now modern games are photorealistic. And yet they don't look realistic at all.

ben_w 7y ago
I was about to suggest Myst 2 onwards as exceptions, but then I looked at some gameplay videos on YouTube and even those don’t look very realistic any more.
- rocqua 7y ago
  Crysis remains one of the best imho.
pvg 7y ago
It doesn't 'change every decade' since it's a style rather than just a function of technology. Doom was never 'photorealistic'. The original 90s MK is, Smash Bros Ultimate isn't.

cm2012 7y ago

Your comment made me watch the trailer, though I don't like MK games. The gore is so unrealistic (there's like, 1/50th that amount of blood in the whole human body!) that it didn't bother me. The closest thing it reminds me of is Kill Bill.

zorked 7y ago

Meh. I watched the trailer, it seemed desperate for attention. When the first two or three MK games came out they were indeed a big part of a culture of its time, being both controversial and a kind of (trashy, commercial) statement against the puritanical/hypocritical mores of the time. The limits of videogames as media were being tested. That side of the controversy won. Nowadays? Meh. They dialed up the stupid gore in an attempt to remain relevant. Nobody cares. I only hear about Mortal Kombat once in a while when someone writes some piece about its violence when a new game comes out. A couple of weeks later they are selling it at some budget price. Nobody cares anymore. Never heard from anyone I know actually playing the new games. Who knows what were the innovations in Mortal Kombat 8? Me neither.