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two separate Soviet ships (likely loaded with intelligence operatives) closely monitored the supposed mining vessel as it worked to retrieve the submarine. It

two separate Soviet ships (likely loaded with intelligence operatives) closely monitored the supposed mining vessel as it worked to retrieve the submarine. It sounds like they knew exactly what was going on. Tangent: My grandfather was part of a U.S. Navy operation during WWII that was responsible for verifying enemy submarine sinkings ... basically, sending someone down to pick up an artifact that would prove the sunken submarine was at a certain location. I don't know how they did it in the deeper parts of the ocean, though.

dogma1138 8y ago
Of course they knew, but there was very little they could do about it. The Soviets and even Russia today kinda sucks at deep sea recovery, even to raise the Kursk they had to contract a Dutch company. Russia never had much offshore oil, and while even for the US navy a sub sinking is likely a recovery operation rather than a rescue one the US navy seem have been much more concern with developing the operational capabilities to at least attempt a rescue.
- fsloth 8y ago
  US also non-surprisingly attempted to block all 'allied' businesses from contributing to soviet deep sea capabilities. The story of Mir submarines is an interesting example of cold war era business: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(submersible) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(submersible)
seppin 8y ago
> It sounds like they knew exactly what was going on. Perhaps they didn't have the means to recover it themselves, nor the desire (it would mean admitting to the accident and deaths of the soldiers)
protomyth 8y ago
In his book Clear the Decks, Admiral Daniel V. Gallery wrote about how they examined photos and other records. He goes into great detail about how they obviously mismarked many of his kills, then later admits how accurate they actually were when they got ahold of the German records.

dogma1138 8y ago

Of course they knew, but there was very little they could do about it. The Soviets and even Russia today kinda sucks at deep sea recovery, even to raise the Kursk they had to contract a Dutch company. Russia never had much offshore oil, and while even for the US navy a sub sinking is likely a recovery operation rather than a rescue one the US navy seem have been much more concern with developing the operational capabilities to at least attempt a rescue.

fsloth 8y ago
US also non-surprisingly attempted to block all 'allied' businesses from contributing to soviet deep sea capabilities. The story of Mir submarines is an interesting example of cold war era business: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(submersible) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(submersible)

seppin 8y ago

> It sounds like they knew exactly what was going on. Perhaps they didn't have the means to recover it themselves, nor the desire (it would mean admitting to the accident and deaths of the soldiers)

protomyth 8y ago

In his book Clear the Decks, Admiral Daniel V. Gallery wrote about how they examined photos and other records. He goes into great detail about how they obviously mismarked many of his kills, then later admits how accurate they actually were when they got ahold of the German records.