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I don't think this is a good thing at all. The more Microsoft embraces Linux and makes it work seamlessly in Windows, the more developers are wont to use Windo

I don't think this is a good thing at all. The more Microsoft embraces Linux and makes it work seamlessly in Windows, the more developers are wont to use Windows, rather than Linux as their primary OS. If not all, this will at-least chip away a good portion of existing developers and most importantly, upcoming developers. This might lead to Linux being relegated to the background, permanently killing the Linux on Desktop dream.

iamgopal 7y ago
You are predicting classic MS strategy, but I think since money is moving away from desktop computing, MS not going to actively pursuing the same. May be indirectly.
writepub 7y ago
This is indeed likely if windows GUI is significantly more stable, reliable and polished than the Linux GUI, and related GUI apps. What I'm saying is - for Linux desktop to pose any real threat to windows, it needs to ship a GUI/Desktop comparable in quality, stability, app and driver ecosystem that rivals windows. That ship sailed 20 years ago, when philosophical infighting trumped user empathy.
tracker1 7y ago
Currently, I'm planning to refresh my desktop (5yo now) when the Zen 2 chips drop. I've been running hackintosh for the past 2 years, and been on a combination of Windows, Linux and Mac regularly for a long time. Most non-gui unix software works on Mac. Does that also detract from Linux? The fact is, people will make pragmatic choices. MOST software these days is delivered online (public or private) via a web browser. People developing that software sometimes have to work on legacy applications they MUST run on Windows. Would you rather take Linux away as even an option? How do you expect people to move away from Windows if they can't support their legacy software? They'll just develop more Windows-only software in that case. At LEAST this gives a clear path forward. And frankly, compared to Windows and Mac, all Linux desktop managers suck. Is say this as someone who pushes for Linux pretty hard in the workplace, has worked in linux environments and my next desktop probably will be Linux. My current work environment has historically been Windows centric. The current project I'm on has been a hard push towards .Net Core (over Framework, which is Windows only) for cross-platform capability. I have made most of the CI/CD and local development workflows work with Docker (as a start). If Linux/Docker etc didn't work on Windows, guess what... That software would have been written Windows-only.
wrinkl3 7y ago
For most developers the choice is not between Linux and Windows but rather between macOS and Windows. Microsoft is trying to woo the devs who are getting disillusioned with Apple after its recent hardware woes. Most devs just don't want to use Linux as their daily driver - it's too much maintenance, and version upgrades are consistently a nightmare.

iamgopal 7y ago

You are predicting classic MS strategy, but I think since money is moving away from desktop computing, MS not going to actively pursuing the same. May be indirectly.

writepub 7y ago

This is indeed likely if windows GUI is significantly more stable, reliable and polished than the Linux GUI, and related GUI apps. What I'm saying is - for Linux desktop to pose any real threat to windows, it needs to ship a GUI/Desktop comparable in quality, stability, app and driver ecosystem that rivals windows. That ship sailed 20 years ago, when philosophical infighting trumped user empathy.

tracker1 7y ago

Currently, I'm planning to refresh my desktop (5yo now) when the Zen 2 chips drop. I've been running hackintosh for the past 2 years, and been on a combination of Windows, Linux and Mac regularly for a long time. Most non-gui unix software works on Mac. Does that also detract from Linux? The fact is, people will make pragmatic choices. MOST software these days is delivered online (public or private) via a web browser. People developing that software sometimes have to work on legacy applications they MUST run on Windows. Would you rather take Linux away as even an option? How do you expect people to move away from Windows if they can't support their legacy software? They'll just develop more Windows-only software in that case. At LEAST this gives a clear path forward. And frankly, compared to Windows and Mac, all Linux desktop managers suck. Is say this as someone who pushes for Linux pretty hard in the workplace, has worked in linux environments and my next desktop probably will be Linux. My current work environment has historically been Windows centric. The current project I'm on has been a hard push towards .Net Core (over Framework, which is Windows only) for cross-platform capability. I have made most of the CI/CD and local development workflows work with Docker (as a start). If Linux/Docker etc didn't work on Windows, guess what... That software would have been written Windows-only.

wrinkl3 7y ago

For most developers the choice is not between Linux and Windows but rather between macOS and Windows. Microsoft is trying to woo the devs who are getting disillusioned with Apple after its recent hardware woes. Most devs just don't want to use Linux as their daily driver - it's too much maintenance, and version upgrades are consistently a nightmare.