Vada and Vitana. I love this. When I was a prof. in a CSC department, I often had to persuade computing services or some other part of the university bureaucrac

Vada and Vitana. I love this. When I was a prof. in a CSC department, I often had to persuade computing services or some other part of the university bureaucracy to do or get something for the students. I soon learned that I would encounter two types of beuracrats. (Actually, three, but I will discount the ones who were just not very smart. The other two types were smart.) The first type I called "obstructors". If I (our my department) proposed something, the obstructors always had a dozen or more compelling reasons why the proposal was impractical, infeasible , or otherwise without merit. The other type, I called them "enablers" might have some initial objections, but they would typically work with me (or us) to overcome the objections so that we could get what we wanted. In the second case, it was "Vada". After a while I learned that the best way to achieve an outcome was simply to avoid ever engaging with the people whose style was "Vitanda". Of course at the time (1980's and 90's) I did not think of them as Trolls - just as jerks who didn't want to do anything that created work for themselves.